Re: What is Oracle's objection to the use of Turtle as R2RML syntax?

On 14 Dec 2011, at 15:44, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> On 12/14/11 8:21 AM, Enrico Franconi wrote:
>>>>>> As a precedence, we can look at the OWL spec. OWL too was called a language, "Web Ontology Language". But, it just defined a vocabulary. It did not define any syntax. One can use any RDF syntax (RDF/XML, N-Triple, ...) for OWL.
>>>>> Yes, you could look at OWL as a DSL for expressing the semantic fidelity of relations via description logics. Now, if you look at OWL, as powerful and fundamentally useful as it actually is, what's happened to it over the last 12+ years? Nothing but confusion due to syntax level issues, all at the expense of its underlying syntax agnostic model.
>>>> Do you you have any supporting evidence that this is "due to syntax level issues"?
>>>> I really don't think so.
>>> Yes. Look at DBpedia, Linked Open Data Cloud, SPARQL, and the rise of Linked Data in general. These are all examples of Turtle exploitation.
>> I don't see how this supports your argument about OWL alleged 'failure' "due to syntax level issues".
> 
> OWL is not a failure, if you Google up you'll notice I've published a plethora of OWL utility demos. My point is this OWL has had a bad wrap due to folks not separating Syntax from Model.
> 
> Back to LOD, DBpedia, and friends. If you notice, OWL hasn't been naturally pulled along with the Linked Data uptake wave. That's because RDF/XML obscured the pathway to comprehending its purpose. Manchester syntax hasn't gained traction. Turtle enables easy demonstration of OWL utility that understandable to a variety of audience profiles.

I'm sorry if I insist here. Even if this is not crucial to the main discussion, I can't let this pass.

"My point is this OWL has had a bad wrap due to folks not separating Syntax from Model"
&
"That's because RDF/XML obscured the pathway to comprehending its purpose"

are unproven statements, but just your personal opinion.
cheers
--e.

Received on Wednesday, 14 December 2011 14:59:19 UTC