RE: [DM] white space

For the data model: the WG, otherwise the data model spec would be
different.

As to the MSXML implementation: Microsoft obviously :-).

Best regards
Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Carlisle [mailto:davidc@nag.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:10 PM
> To: Michael Rys
> Cc: public-qt-comments@w3.org
> Subject: RE: [DM] white space
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > We have seen the data model generation as an application that
> > understands xml:space="default" and "preserve" and have furthermore
> > decided that it is up to the upper-specs and implementation to
define
> > what the "default" behaviour is.
> 
> "We" here being Microsoft? Certainly that seems to be the only
> explanation of why (uniquely) the microsoft implementations are
> inconsistent with every other implementation (and all but the most
> generous reading of the XSLT1 spec).
> (I'm really not trying to take part in that common and often enjoyable
> sport of Microsoft bashing here, I really like msxsl as an
> implementation and use it a lot (along with saxon and xalan) however
you
> can't help but single them out on this issue as the behaviour
> is so unique to those implementations. It really is a FAQ on xsl-list:
> some user posts with some inexplicable white space or node counting
> problem, usually they don't say which implementation they are using
but
> the description of the problem allows those of us answering to
identify
> that they are using msxml. A version 2 of a language seems an ideal
time
> to tighten up the language to close this loophole that allows this
> incompatible behaviour.
> 
> 
> > I find this logical and consistent. If you want to get the
upper-specs
> > to mandate options to provide both skip and preserve as options,
then
> > please indicate where and how. We will certainly look at this.
> 
> XSLT1 (and 2) have this as a user option already, xsl:strip-space and
> xsl:preserve-space.
> 
> Unfortutely the option is a no op if the default behaviour of the
parser
> is (contrary to the XML specification) to remove the spaces from your
> document before XSLT starts, so before the user option to preserve
space
> can work.
> 
> Building an instance of the data model with all inter-word spaces
> removed is in any case _allowed_ by the "application and build data
> models how it likes" clause I just want to ensure that the application
> can not do that as a default behaviour while claiming to input an XML
> document.
> 
> David
> 
> 

Received on Friday, 5 December 2003 20:04:57 UTC