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Re: authorization for W3C to release names to the PBG SC

From: Bill Kasdorf <kasdorf.bill@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 11:14:04 -0400
Message-ID: <CALhciFhTY-ZcW6ed3o9j6vOiwRV=7yMU1j5QWkhTBf9WqSirQw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Garth Conboy <garth@google.com>
Cc: Graham Bell <graham@editeur.org>, Luc Audrain <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>, Cristina Mussinelli <c.mussinelli@360publishing.it>, George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>, "PBG Steering Committee (Public)" <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>, IDPF Board <idpf-board@googlegroups.com>
Although I originally advocated not identifying those not in good standing,
I now think we need both. If the purpose is recruitment for the BG or full
W3C membership, then:

(1) The members in good standing, which were eligible for TPI status
(whether or not they took advantage of it) are clearly prime candidates,
but

(2) There seems to be no reason not to see the list of all parties who
expressed interest in joining the IDPF, or perhaps were even past members,
because some of them might now be candidates for at least the BG, although
not as strong candidates as the members in good standing. (Though I admit
that when I saw the 300-some-party list a lot of them looked really dubious
to me.)

So what we probably need is a master list that clearly identifies those in
good standing, and of those, which ones are TPI members. And then we can
sort through the others for likely candidates as well.

--Bill K

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:35 AM 'Garth Conboy' via IDPF Board <
idpf-board@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I have no objection.
>
> Best,
>    Garth
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:51 AM Graham Bell <graham@editeur.org> wrote:
>
>> I seem to remember a conversation about this two years ago – the list
>> handed over for transitional membership eligibility should only have
>> included those in good standing. However, it’s fine to hand over corporate
>> names – no GDPR issues.
>>
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 Oct 2018, at 08:22, AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Yes W3C Management did.
>>
>> The question is about IDPF board authorization for the W3C management to
>> share that list with the PBG SC.
>>
>> Also, I’d like more accuracy.
>> W3CM speaks about 128 IDPF members “in good standing”, George about 300,
>> the existing Website has 388 entries…
>>
>> Luc
>>
>> *De : *Graham Bell <graham@editeur.org>
>> *Date : *mardi 9 octobre 2018 à 08:17
>> *À : *AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>
>> *Cc : *Cristina Mussinelli <c.mussinelli@360publishing.it>, George
>> Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>, "PBG Steering Committee (Public)" <
>> public-publishing-sc@w3.org>, IDPF Executive Board <
>> idpf-board@googlegroups.com>
>> *Objet : *Re: authorization for W3C to release names to the PBG SC
>>
>>
>> Didn’t they already get the list of companies as part of the original
>> handover? They must have. If they didn’t , how was transitional membership
>> managed?
>> Graham Bell
>> EDItEUR
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On 9 Oct 2018, at 08:09, AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Company names will be helpful.
>> Is the IDPF board ok for sharing this information with the PBG SC ?
>>
>> Best,
>> Luc
>>
>> *De : *Cristina Mussinelli <c.mussinelli@360publishing.it>
>> *Date : *mardi 9 octobre 2018 à 06:37
>> *À : *George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>
>> *Cc : *"PBG Steering Committee (Public)" <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>,
>> IDPF Executive Board <idpf-board@googlegroups.com>
>> *Objet : *Re: authorization for W3C to release names to the PBG SC
>> *Renvoyer - De : *<public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
>> *Renvoyer - Date : *mardi 9 octobre 2018 à 06:37
>>
>>
>> Thank you fine for me
>> Cristina Mussinelli
>>
>> Inviato da iPhone
>>
>>
>> Il giorno 9 ott 2018, alle ore 00:51, George Kerscher <
>> kerscher@montana.com> ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi, IDPF Exec, and PBG SC,
>>
>> Please see Daves comments below. Dave has been looking in to this in prep
>> for the DAISY website revision.
>> I think this addresses Cristina’s concern.
>>
>> Best
>> George
>>
>>
>> *From:* Dave Gunn <DGunn@daisy.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 8, 2018 3:34 PM
>> *To:* Richard Orme <rorme@daisy.org>; George Kerscher (montana) <
>> kerscher@montana.com>
>> *Subject:* RE: authorization for W3C to release names to the PBG SC
>>
>> GDPR relates to information about people, particularly identifiable data.
>> If this is just the company names without information about people or their
>> contact details, GDPR does not apply.
>> Dave
>>
>> *From:* Richard Orme
>> *Sent:* 08 October 2018 22:08
>> *To:* George Kerscher (montana) <kerscher@montana.com>
>> *Cc:* Dave Gunn <DGunn@daisy.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: authorization for W3C to release names to the PBG SC
>>
>>
>> Actually Dave (copied) is the expert in the room...
>> *Richard*
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 8, 2018 10:06:13 PM
>> *To:* Richard Orme; Dave Gunn
>> *Subject:* FW: authorization for W3C to release names to the PBG SC
>>
>> Hi Richard and Dave,
>>
>> Perhaps you know more about this. We are asking if it is OK for the W3C
>> to release names and status of IDPF members to the SC. The purpose is to
>> recruit companies in to publishing activities at the W3C.
>>
>> Best
>> George
>>
>>
>> *From:* idpf-board@googlegroups.com <idpf-board@googlegroups.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Cristina Mussinelli
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 8, 2018 9:55 AM
>> *To:* George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>; IDPF Executive Board <
>> idpf-board@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: authorization for W3C to release names to the PBG SC
>>
>> Hi
>> Personally I do not have any objection, I only suggest to verify if the
>> new GRDP ((General Data Protection Regulation) entered in force in EU on
>> 25 May of this year may effect this kind of activity for the EU members.
>>
>> Best
>> Cristina
>>
>>
>>
>> *Da: *<idpf-board@googlegroups.com> per conto di George Kerscher <
>> kerscher@montana.com>
>> *Data: *lunedì 8 ottobre 2018 15:32
>> *A: *IDPF Executive Board <idpf-board@googlegroups.com>
>> *Oggetto: *authorization for W3C to release names to the PBG SC
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The PBG SC is asking Ralph to release the company names and if they were
>> in good standing at the time of the combination. I think there are over 300
>> companies that would be identified. I believe the intent is to encourage
>> these companies to join the W3C as full members or to join the  Publishing
>> Business Group.
>>
>> Just respond if you have an objection and why. Let’s give it 72 hours to
>> object.
>>
>>
>> Best
>> George
>>
>>
>> George Kerscher Ph.D.
>> -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human
>> right.
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