Re: External Coordination Task Force

Thanks to both of you, that's just what I needed! Here's an updated draft:

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Dear PBG member--

BISG, the Book Industry Study Group, continues to be a valuable partner to
the W3C in providing insights relevant to the work within the Publishing@W3C
activity, collaborating with those activities when appropriate, and being
supportive of its results.

However, BISG is (1) specifically a U.S. supply chain organization, and (2)
focuses only on books.

The mission of the External Coordination Task Force is to coordinate with
other such geographically focused, sector-specific, or publishing industry
organizations that are directly related to our work, in order to keep them
informed about Publishing@W3C activity and to provide a vehicle for them to
provide input to the work.

Examples of geographically focused organizations that could be included are
BookNet Canada, Book Industry Communications (BIC) in the UK, Associazione
Italiana Editori (AIE) in Italy, Taiwan’s TDPF (Taiwan Digital Publishing
Forum), and similar organizations in France, Germany, Korea, China, and
many other countries.

Japan has quite a few organizations which could be relevant, such as  APL
(Advanced Publishing Lab), EBPAJ (The Electronic Book Publishers
Association of Japan), DCA (Digital Comic Association), AEBS (Association
for E-publishing Business Solution), JPO (Japan Publishing Organization for
Information Infrastructure Development) and JBPA (Japan Book Publishers
Association). Also, we have a connection to Taiwan’s TDPF (Taiwan Digital
Publishing Forum), all of which my co-chairs Daihei and Yoshii-san could
coordinate with.

Examples of publishing industry or sector-specific organizations include
EDItEUR; Idealliance (magazines); the Society for Scholarly Publishing
(SSP); the Association of University Presses (AUP, formerly AAUP); the
International Press Telecommunications Council (IPTC), the news and media
industry technology standards organization;and perhaps library
organizations such as the ALA or OCLC. And of course EDRLab is already
involved.

Obviously, there is a perhaps overwhelming number of potential
organizations that might be relevant. Deciding which organizations should
be our top priorities for involvement and determining the means of
communicating with and potentially involving these organizations will be
the first order of business for the External Communications Task Force.
Note that it's possible that we will decide on two types of relationships:
those with which we maintain a relatively active relationship and others
which we may simply keep informed periodically, always of course
encouraging their input.

Please contact me if you are willing to serve on the External Coordination
Task Force. And if you are willing to be the point person for one of the
organizations mentioned above, or another organization you can recommend,
please let me know.

Because of the geographical distribution of our likely members (not to
mention the three co-chairs) I suspect most of our work will be done by
email and Google Docs with periodic but infrequent conference calls.

--Bill Kasdorf, Co-Chair

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Please let me know how that works for you now. Note that I have expanded it
in several places; I didn't just add the organizations you emailed me.

I've also copied the Steering Committee and Chairs group, as well as Brian
O'Leary, since BISG is mentioned so prominently, to get their feedback as
well.

I will plan to send the email out on Monday to the PBG as a whole, in
advance of the Tuesday meeting, assuming I've gotten feedback by then.

--Bill K

*Bill Kasdorf*
*Principal, Kasdorf & Associates, LLC*
kasdorf.bill@gmail.com
+1 734-904-6252

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On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 12:47 PM, 塩濵大平 <shiohama@mediado.jp> wrote:

> Ann Arbor must be different from 1974. On the way back from Michigan to
> Japan then, I stayed in Chicago and have encountered two historic events:
> 1) Nixon resignation; 2) CSNY Re-Union.
>
> I hope to make a visit you over there someday.
>
> Best,
>
> Daihei
>
>
>
>
> 2018/03/10 2:02、Bill Kasdorf <kasdorf.bill@gmail.com>のメール:
>
> Wow, that is so cool that you were at U-M in the '70s!
>
> *Bill Kasdorf*
> *Principal, Kasdorf & Associates, LLC*
> kasdorf.bill@gmail.com
> +1 734-904-6252 <(734)%20904-6252>
>
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>
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 11:00 AM, 塩濵大平 <shiohama@mediado.jp> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Thanks and understood.
>>
>> I have already discussed with Yoshii-san and will email you during this
>> weekend.
>>
>> At 18, I went UM Ann Arbor to study English then. It has been 44 years
>> since then!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Daihei
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2018/03/10 0:45、Bill Kasdorf <kasdorf.bill@gmail.com>のメール:
>>
>> Thanks, Daihei. Right now is not the time to actually _contact_ any of
>> these organizations. We need to form our Task Force and then collectively
>> discuss and decide which organizations, and which types of organizations,
>> it makes sense to reach out to. The email I drafted is just to go to the
>> PBG to recruit members for the Task Force, so they can understand the kinds
>> of things we will be talking about.
>>
>> I look forward to seeing your additional suggestions next week. If by any
>> chance you can get them to me by Monday, I can get the email out in time
>> for the PBG meeting next week, although that's not critical. I will update
>> the Steering Committee shortly that we are getting this together; we have a
>> meeting coming up in about 15 minutes.
>>
>> And to answer your question, I'm based in Ann Arbor, Michigan, which is
>> Eastern Time. We go onto Eastern Daylight Time this Sunday. Thanks for
>> asking!
>>
>> --Bill
>>
>> *Bill Kasdorf*
>> *Principal, Kasdorf & Associates, LLC*
>> kasdorf.bill@gmail.com
>> +1 734-904-6252 <(734)%20904-6252>
>>
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>> ORCiD: https://orcid.org/0000-0001-7002-4786
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:56 PM, 塩濵大平 <shiohama@mediado.jp> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for the email draft below.
>>> Sorry that I could not get back to you sooner. I have been still
>>> involved in various family matters which are being taken care of now.
>>>
>>> Yoshii-san (Its his last name and the first name is Junichi, FYI) and I
>>> will include various Japanese publishing industry related organizations and
>>> will get back to you next week. As for the publishing related parties in
>>> other parts of Asia including Taiwan, Korea, China, etc., we shall be in
>>> touch with some that we have direct connections with, and otherwise we
>>> shall ask volunteers as you suggested to help participate in the Task Force.
>>>
>>> We are looking forward to working closely with you.
>>> If any questions, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Daihei
>>>
>>> p.s. Where are you based in US? I want to know your time zone. FYI, I
>>> will be in Tokyo until March 25 and then will be back in San Diego
>>> thereafter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018/03/03 6:19、Bill Kasdorf <kasdorf.bill@gmail.com>のメール:
>>>
>>> Hi, Daihei and Yoshi--
>>>
>>> Here's my thinking about how to approach the task of forming the
>>> External Coordination Task Force and defining what its purpose is. I would
>>> propose to send this as an email to the Business Group once the two of you
>>> have provided feedback and the three of us have good consensus about what
>>> it says, and after we run that consensus text by the chairs before sending
>>> to the group as a whole.
>>>
>>> =====
>>>
>>> BISG, the Book Industry Study Group, continues to be a valuable partner
>>> to the W3C in providing insights relevant to the work within the
>>> Publishing@W3C activity, collaborating with those activities when
>>> appropriate, and being supportive of its results.
>>>
>>> However, BISG is (1) specifically a U.S. supply chain organization, and
>>> (2) focuses only on books.
>>>
>>> The mission of the External Coordination Task Force is to coordinate
>>> with other such geographically focused, sector-specific, or publishing
>>> industry organizations that are directly related to our work, in order to
>>> keep them informed about Publishing@W3C activity and to provide a
>>> vehicle for them to provide input to the work.
>>>
>>> Examples of geographically focused organizations that could be included
>>> are BookNet Canada, Book Industry Communications (BIC) in the
>>> UK, Associazione Italiana Editori (AIE) in Italy, [Daihei and Yoshi, please
>>> add a Japanese, Korean, and/or Chinese example], and similar organizations
>>> in France, Germany, and many other countries.
>>>
>>> Examples of publishing industry or sector-specific organizations include
>>> EDItEUR; Idealliance (magazines); the Society for Scholarly Publishing
>>> (SSP); the Association of University Presses (AUP, formerly AAUP); the
>>> International Press Telecommunications Council (IPTC), the news industry
>>> technology standards organization;and perhaps library organizations such as
>>> the ALA or OCLC.
>>>
>>> Determining the means of communicating with and potentially involving
>>> these organizations will be the first order of business for the External
>>> Communications Task Force.
>>>
>>> To start, we need to recruit task force members from the Publishing
>>> Business Group who can volunteer to be the point of contact for one or more
>>> such organizations.
>>>
>>> =====
>>>
>>> Please let me know what you think. Feel free to suggest changes or
>>> additions. Again, once the three of us are in agreement on this, I'll run
>>> it by the three chairs. Thanks!
>>>
>>> --Bill
>>>
>>> *Bill Kasdorf*
>>> *Principal, Kasdorf & Associates*
>>> kasdorf.bill@gmail.com
>>> +1 734-904-6252 <(734)%20904-6252>
>>>
>>> ISNI: http://isni.org/isni/0000000116490786
>>> ORCiD: https://orcid.org/0000-0001-7002-4786
>>> <https://orcid.org/0000-0001-7002-4786?lang=en>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:47 PM, 塩濵大平 <shiohama@mediado.jp> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your sympathy. It is a difficult time for me. But, life
>>>> goes on and I will hang in there.
>>>>
>>>> It would be great if you can draft an email as suggested.
>>>> As for the organizations that we would like to extend our reach and
>>>> recruit to the task force including all the publishing industry related
>>>> ones, would you allow us to come back to you with a list of them based on
>>>> the context of your draft email so that our recommendation could be more
>>>> appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you and we look forward to working closely with you.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Daihei
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2018/02/27 7:36、Bill Kasdorf <kasdorf.bill@gmail.com>のメール:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Daihei--
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First of all, I'm so sorry to hear of your brother passing away. If you
>>>> need some more time, this is not urgent. Our task force was originally
>>>> intended to be done later, not at the start with the other ones.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think much of the work can be done via email. Our first task, of
>>>> course, will be to invite people to join the task force. Would you like me
>>>> to go ahead and draft an email to the PBG, running it by you and Yoshi
>>>> first?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That would accomplish two things. In addition to recruiting task force
>>>> members, it will help us clarify what we're planning to do.
>>>>
>>>> One quick question: Could you tell me exactly how I should state the
>>>> names of the organizations you and Yoshi will be coordinating with? I want
>>>> to include that in the draft email to the Business Group.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> --Bill K
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Note that I have moved this thread over to my Gmail account. I am
>>>> no longer at Apex. I've established an independent consultancy, Kasdorf &
>>>> Associates, LLC. This will tell you what I'm doing:
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/announcing-kasdorf-ass
>>>> ociates-llc-bill-kasdorf/. Since I represent BISG on the W3C, I will
>>>> still be able to participate in all the groups I'm on!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Bill Kasdorf*
>>>> *Principal, Kasdorf & Associates*
>>>> kasdorf.bill@gmail.com
>>>> +1 734-904-6252 <(734)%20904-6252>
>>>>
>>>> ISNI: http://isni.org/isni/0000000116490786
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: 塩濵大平 [mailto:shiohama@mediado.jp]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:56 AM
>>>> To: Bill Kasdorf
>>>> Cc: jyoshii0508@gmail com
>>>> Subject: External Coordination Task Force
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I could not participate in the PBG call on Friday.
>>>> My brother has passed away and I am currently in Tokyo taking care of
>>>> various family matters which prevented me from works on the W3C matters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suppose I could be more actively participate starting next week.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As for External Coordination Task Force, you, Junichi Yoshi and myself
>>>> are now appointed to co-lead.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering if you know what the tasks and the schedule and so forth
>>>> that we should follow and work on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you could advise me and Yoshii-san, we will do out best; me from San
>>>> Diego (till March 25th, I will be in Tokyo) and Yoshii-san from Tokyo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate your advice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daihei
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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