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Re: FW: IDPF Guidelines page copyright

From: Rachel Comerford <rachel.comerford@macmillan.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 10:35:42 -0500
Message-ID: <CAESEvMwWfZHWaFb6Ne8E5uC_dQrAj8TU7+JPASHUQYXT_md=jw@mail.gmail.com>
To: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>
Cc: "PBG Steering Committee (Public)" <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>, Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>, Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com>
I'm going to throw this out there for discussion as well - what if we used
this to seed the Best Practices documentation?

Rachel Comerford | Senior Director of Content Standards and Accessibility |
T 212.576.9433

*Macmillan Learning*

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:51 AM, George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>
wrote:

> Dear SC,
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> We have a call on Friday and I was asked to find out about the Ace
> Knowledge Base and its relation to the old IDPF guidelines.
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> Below is the thread on this.
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> My opinion is that the AceKB is not any kind of infringement and we
> should take down the old site and redirect to the maintained Ace KB.
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> Bill, do you want to weigh in?
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> Best
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> George
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> *From:* Matt Garrish [mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 1:48 PM
> *To:* 'George Kerscher' <kerscher@montana.com>; 'Bill McCoy (W3C)' <
> bmccoy@w3.org>
> *Cc:* 'Avneesh Singh' <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: IDPF Guidelines page copyright
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> You might want to consider redirecting all traffic to the main menu of the
> new kb site. There won’t be 1:1 mappings for every page: some have been
> consolidated, some are moved to a work-in-progress directory until they can
> be updated, etc.
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> We could always put a temporary note at the of that page indicating that
> these are the new guidelines and to update bookmarks.
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> A thought, at least.
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> Matt
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> *From:* George Kerscher [mailto:kerscher@montana.com
> <kerscher@montana.com>]
> *Sent:* February 23, 2018 3:39 PM
> *To:* 'Matt Garrish' <matt.garrish@gmail.com>; 'Bill McCoy (W3C)' <
> bmccoy@w3.org>
> *Cc:* 'Avneesh Singh' <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: IDPF Guidelines page copyright
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> Thank you Matt,
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> Bill, I believe that we can say that the old guidelines are not being
> maintained and suggest that people go to the DAISY KB.
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> So if we take the old guidelines down and redirect, how do people know
> this? The alternative to a redirect is to take down the pages and say that
> the pages have been removed and make the suggestion to go to the DAISY KB?
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> Best
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> George
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> *From:* Matt Garrish [mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com
> <matt.garrish@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 12:09 PM
> *To:* 'George Kerscher' <kerscher@montana.com>; 'Bill McCoy (W3C)' <
> bmccoy@w3.org>
> *Cc:* 'Avneesh Singh' <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: IDPF Guidelines page copyright
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> The new KB isn’t a direct copy of the old site, if that’s what you’re
> asking. There are going to be familiarities from old to new, of course, but
> even in the parts I did try to keep (examples and explanation) I’ve been
> adding, updating and simplifying for future use with web publications.
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> The new site is also a complete rethink of what information people want
> and how they want it. Each page starts with a short summary of best
> practices followed by a list of all the relevant WCAG techniques (to
> highlight that we are aligned with W3C practices and not making things up
> on our own). The lengthy explanations are pushed to the end for people who
> are looking for more than a practical how-to guide.
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> Hope that helps clarify.
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> Matt
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> *From:* George Kerscher [mailto:kerscher@montana.com
> <kerscher@montana.com>]
> *Sent:* February 23, 2018 1:24 PM
> *To:* Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com>; Bill McCoy (W3C) <
> bmccoy@w3.org>
> *Cc:* Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* IDPF Guidelines page copyright
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> Hi Matt and Bill,
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> On the PBG-SC call we discussed redirecting the old  accessibility
> guidelines page to the Ace KB. We all thought this was a good idea, but we
> have a few issues to sort out.
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> First, is our new KB site have any parts that were copied wholesale from
> the old site? We know many of the ideas are the same, but really it is W3C
> guidelines that are the basis for most everything.
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> Secondly, we would not want to say anything on the redirect or the old
> page that implies the new KB is an update of those guidelines. My take is
> that this KB simply replaces that guidance.
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> Bill, did I get that right?
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> Best
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> George
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> George Kerscher Ph.D.
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> -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human
> right.
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