Re: [NISO sc34ballots] Groups - Ballot reminder: "ISO/IEC/DTS 23078, Specification of DRM technology for e-book content"

Hi George, 

Your proposal is excellent I think. You should add your point about accessibility, but as you know EDRLab is firmly engaged for making sure LCP is accessible-friendly, the DRM becoming an ISO standard or not.
No other thoughts. 

Laurent


> Le 21 août 2018 à 21:02, George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com> a écrit :
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> Hi,
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> Laurent, if I vote for the NISO drm proposal with comments that address the objections that Tzviya raises below, and also say that the specification should be aligned with LCP so that there is a single conforming specification, then would that be good?
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> I have still not heard if Bill Rosenblatt would agree with representing the USA in this work. I believe that this would help avoid the divergence from LCP.
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> I also have the issue that accessibility cannot be blocked by DRM.
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> Other thoughts?
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> Not much time left for me to cast my vote.
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> Best
> George
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>  
> From: Siegman, Tzviya <tsiegman@wiley.com <mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>> 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 7:59 AM
> To: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com <mailto:kerscher@montana.com>>; PBG Steering Committee (Public) <public-publishing-sc@w3.org <mailto:public-publishing-sc@w3.org>>
> Cc: Daniel Weck <daniel.weck@gmail.com <mailto:daniel.weck@gmail.com>>; Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com <mailto:avneesh.sg@gmail.com>>
> Subject: RE: [NISO sc34ballots] Groups - Ballot reminder: "ISO/IEC/DTS 23078, Specification of DRM technology for e-book content"
>  
> Hi George,
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> I am addressing these one set of documents at a time. 
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> Standardized DRM for epub:
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> I recommend voting against for a number of reasons, most of which have already been stated:
> This requires publishers to apply DRM themselves, which effectively means creating more than one file. 
> Creating encrypted files can generate workflow issues. In the early days of Kindle, Amazon required publishers to provide an encrypted file, but they provided a tool to create the encrypted file. Even so, it created many problems because it was not possible to QA the files. Will file providers be able to open the files for basic QA?
> This does not solve the problem created by multiple DRM solutions in the ebook market. It intensifies it by creating another DRM solution.
> Why not look at LCP?
> NISO is largely used by publishers in the STEM world. Much of the content (at least the journals content) does not have DRM now (example: Wiley Online Library). Will this encourage DRM where it does not exist today?
>  
> Thank you,
> Tzviya
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> Tzviya Siegman
> Information Standards Lead
> Wiley
> 201-748-6884
> tsiegman@wiley.com <mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>
>  
> From: George Kerscher [mailto:kerscher@montana.com <mailto:kerscher@montana.com>] 
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 1:50 PM
> To: PBG Steering Committee (Public) <public-publishing-sc@w3.org <mailto:public-publishing-sc@w3.org>>
> Cc: Daniel Weck <daniel.weck@gmail.com <mailto:daniel.weck@gmail.com>>; Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com <mailto:avneesh.sg@gmail.com>>
> Subject: FW: [NISO sc34ballots] Groups - Ballot reminder: "ISO/IEC/DTS 23078, Specification of DRM technology for e-book content"
>  
> Hi again,
>  
> Supporting documents attached.
>  
> I have to vote early in the week. I asked Todd Carpenter if Bill Rosenblat could be working on this, but have not heard back.
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> Thoughts on how I should vote?
>  
> Best
> George
>  
>  
> From: workgroup_mailer@list.niso.org <mailto:workgroup_mailer@list.niso.org> <workgroup_mailer@list.niso.org <mailto:workgroup_mailer@list.niso.org>> On Behalf Of admin@list.niso.org <mailto:admin@list.niso.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:30 AM
> To: kerscher@montana.com <mailto:kerscher@montana.com>
> Subject: [NISO sc34ballots] Groups - Ballot reminder: "ISO/IEC/DTS 23078, Specification of DRM technology for e-book content"
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> Reminder: Please cast your vote on the ballot "ISO/IEC/DTS 23078, Specification of DRM technology for e-book content" in the "SC34 Ballot Advisory Group" group.
> This is your last reminder to vote.
> Ballot Title: ISO/IEC/DTS 23078, Specification of DRM technology for e-book content <http://groups.niso.org/apps/org/workgroup/sc34ballots/ballot.php?id=878>
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> Question
> Do you approve, disapprove or abstain on this NWIP for ISO/IEC/DTS 23078 DRM technology for e-book? 
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> Closing Date: Tuesday, 21 August 2018 @ 11:59 pm EDT
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> Description
> The proposed standard provides a specification of the security technology required to deliver EPUB content for the purpose of submission, storing and dissemination in libraries and other organizations. This proposed standard addresses specific technical specifications for encryption, digital signatures, certificates, and licenses of EPUB contents, as well as usage scenarios for secure delivery of EPUB contents. The proposed standard uses internationally proven security technologies and consists of royalty-free technologies.
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> If the US votes to approve this as a new project, we are expected to name AT LEAST ONE EXPERT who will work on this standard's development. If you would like to nominate someone, please include the name and contact information in your comments, we are now also required to provide particular information when adding Experts to working groups: The Expert’s full name and e-mail address, a salutation (Dr., Ms., etc.) as well as one of the following Stakeholder Categories:
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> We are also required to provide a justification statement for why we think this is or is not a worthwhile/useful project (depending on whether we vote yes or no). Please provide such a statement in the comments for your Affirmative or Negative vote. Consider whether you think this standard will be used in the U.S.
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> Question 1
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> Do you approve this project being added to the program, disapprove adding this project or abstain on this NP?
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> Draft document will be registered as new project in the committee program (stage 20.00)
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> Permission is granted by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) to electronically reproduce this working draft International Standard for purpose of review and comment related to the preparation of the U.S. position, provided this notice is included. All other right are reserved. 
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> Vote <http://groups.niso.org/apps/org/workgroup/sc34ballots/ballot.php?id=878>
> Approve
> Disapprove
> Abstain due to lack of consensus
> Abstain due to lack of national expert input
> Draft document will be registered as new project in committee program (stage 20.00)
> Draft document can be registered as a Working Draft (WD - Stage 20.20)
> Draft document can be registered as a Committee Draft (CD - Stage 30.00)
> Draft document can be registered as a Draft International Standard (DIS - Stage 40.00)
> Abstain from voting
> Group: SC34 Ballot Advisory Group
> Date Opened: Wednesday, 6 June 2018 @ 6:00 am EDT
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> Referenced Items
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> ISO-IECJTC1-SC34_N2506_NP_TS23078.2.pdf (295K) 
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> 2018-06-06 
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> Download <http://groups.niso.org/apps/org/workgroup/sc34ballots/download.php/19252> | View Details <http://groups.niso.org/apps/org/workgroup/sc34ballots/document.php?document_id=19252>
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> DRM Specification for EPUB Content - Overview-02.docx (225K) 
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> 2018-06-06 
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> Download <http://groups.niso.org/apps/org/workgroup/sc34ballots/download.php/19253> | View Details <http://groups.niso.org/apps/org/workgroup/sc34ballots/document.php?document_id=19253>