- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:14:18 -0500
- To: Daniel Garijo <dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es>
- Cc: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>, Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Great! Ivan On Feb 20, 2013, at 13:24 , Daniel Garijo <dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es> wrote: > Hi, I added the proposed rdf-a descriptions for the dc-note as well. > They work on RDF-a 1.1 with the distiller: > http://www.w3.org/2012/pyRdfa/#distill_by_uri+with_options. > > Just in case, I added the prefixes. > > Best, > Daniel > > 2013/2/14 Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> > > On Feb 14, 2013, at 07:14 , Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote: > > > Let us make use of my jet-lag:-) > > > > For the example below, the change to RDFa 1.1 is pretty simple: > > > > <div prefix="prov: http://www.w3.org/ns/prov# class="rdf2rdfa"> > > > > should make it:-) > > > > The point is that all the other prefixes are pre-defined for RDFa 1.1 as of today. Actually, when Prov becomes a recommendation, even the prefix definition above becomes obsolete, because it becomes also predefined, although it may some time for that change to get through various implementations, so it may be wise to keep it for a while. (Adding @prefix statements for predefined prefixes is not an error unless it changes the URI.) > > > > (Hm. In my free time or jet-laged period I am just reading a novel from a writer called Thomas Mann, who has such long and convoluted sentences. It seems that I am under his influence:-) > > Ivan > > > > The rest is o.k. with RDFa 1.1, too (it is not RDFa 1.1 Lite, I am not sure we have to worry about that) > > > > Ivan > > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 2013, at 13:53 , Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote: > > > >> Hi Ivan when you get time let us know what the best is. > >> > >> Hopefully early next week? > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> > >> On Feb 13, 2013, at 14:46, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote: > >> > >>> Guys, > >>> > >>> please, do not use RDFa 1.0. On the code in this mail the main difference is not to use xmlns:XXX (which is deprecated in RDFa 1.1 and also strongly advised against its usage) but, rather, @prefix. > >>> > >>> (Sorry I cannot check things right now, I am at a conference and only have access to the net time to time. I am happy to look at this later.) > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Ivan > >>> > >>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 05:38 , Paul Groth <pgroth@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Luc, > >>>> > >>>> RDFa would be great. Your example looks pretty good. PROV-O already has RDFa embedded but doesn't describe the provenance of the document itself (I think). > >>>> > >>>> The following is some example turtle for prov-o. I tried to present what I think would be minimal but also show off what we've done. From the turtle, we can generate RDFa and paste that into the top of the page. > >>>> > >>>> @prefix prov: <http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#> . > >>>> > >>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-prov-o-20121211/> > >>>> prov:wasRevisionOf <http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-o-20120724/>; > >>>> prov:specializationOf <http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/>; > >>>> prov:wasAttributedTo <http://tw.rpi.edu/instances/TimLebo>; > >>>> #add other authors/editors here > >>>> prov:wasAttributedTo <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov>; > >>>> prov:wasInfluencedBy <http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-prov-o-20121211/#acknowledgements>. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> <http://tw.rpi.edu/instances/TimLebo> a prov:Person . > >>>> <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov> a prov:Organization . > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> RDFa generated with http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/rdf2rdfa/ > >>>> > >>>> <div xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" > >>>> xmlns:rdfs="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#" > >>>> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" > >>>> xmlns:prov="http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#" > >>>> xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#" > >>>> class="rdf2rdfa"> > >>>> <div class="description" about="http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-prov-o-20121211/"> > >>>> <div rel="prov:specializationOf" resource="http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/"/> > >>>> <div rel="prov:wasAttributedTo"> > >>>> <div class="description" about="http://tw.rpi.edu/instances/TimLebo" > >>>> typeof="prov:Person"/> > >>>> </div> > >>>> <div rel="prov:wasAttributedTo"> > >>>> <div class="description" about="http://www.w3.org/2011/prov" > >>>> typeof="prov:Organization"/> > >>>> </div> > >>>> <div rel="prov:wasInfluencedBy" > >>>> resource="http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-prov-o-20121211/#acknowledgements"/> > >>>> <div rel="prov:wasRevisionOf" > >>>> resource="http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-o-20120724/"/> > >>>> </div> > >>>> </div> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> Paul > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear all, > >>>> > >>>> Are we willing to eat our own "dog food" for our specifications and > >>>> embed some prov metadata in the documents? If we do it, we should do it > >>>> for the > >>>> PR release. > >>>> > >>>> What approach do we go for? rdfa? If so, what do we put in there? > >>>> > >>>> Alternatively, metadata link to a provenance file? An early attempt > >>>> describing the WG specs > >>>> can be found at: > >>>> https://github.com/lucmoreau/ProvToolbox/blob/master/prov-n/src/test/resources/prov/prov-family2.pn > >>>> > >>>> Luc > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Professor Luc Moreau > >>>> Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 > >>>> University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 > >>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk > >>>> United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm > >>> > >>> > >>> ---- > >>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead > >>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > >>> mobile: +31-641044153 > >>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > ---- > > Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead > > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > > mobile: +31-641044153 > > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > mobile: +31-641044153 > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf > > > > > > > ---- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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