- From: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
- Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:07:41 +0000
- To: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
- Cc: Simon Miles <simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org Group WG" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote: > The use of the property implies that X is a quotation, by the definition of the property. > The domain of the property is not constrained because it wasn't necessary -- Entity is sufficient. >> If you see “X wasQuotedFrom Y” and you do not know that X is a quotation, > You **DO** know that X is a quotation, simply by the fact that it wasQuotedFrom something. > Chuck's assumption here is invalid, so the remaining argument does not work. Perhaps simply introducing the domain of Entity-subclass prov:Quotation is sufficient to make this clear. It would perhaps seem odd to have the prov:wasQuotedFrom relationship alone, as it's quite specific provenance that you perhaps did not expect to find in PROV. We have however agreed that it could be reused beyond the textual citations from books, etc - for instance, from my domain: <http://example.com/workflow> a prov:Entity, :Workflow ; dcterms:hasPart :component1, :component2 . <http://example.com/workflow#component1> a prov:Entity, :Component, prov:wasQuotedFrom <http://example.com/otherWorkflow> ; prov:alternateOf <http://example.com/otherWorkflow#component3> . Here we just want to say that I've taken some part #component3 from <http://example.com/otherWorkflow> and copied it (somewhat verbatim) to our <http://example.com/workflow>. A key property of a quotation is where it was from (prov:wasQuotedFrom), another would be who it's attributed to (we should clarify if prov:wasAttributedTo on a prov:Quotation should show who uttered the original quote, who chose to cut it out and use it as a quotation, or both.) A quotation is also usually part of something else - but if we were to recommend say dcterms:isPartOf for this, then we might also have to clarify if a prov:Quotation is a particular quotation somewhere else. Ie. is ("To be or not to be" as quoted in a blog post by Stian is a different prov:Quotation from "To be or not to be" in a tweet by Stian) , or if it is that selection of an original, no matter who is doing the quoting. (Ie. "To be or not to be" in my blog post, in a tweet, in another book, and in a play could all be the same prov:Quotation instance). I would tend towards the first, which would make prov:wasAttributedTo to the original author trickier, or even just let it be open (allow both styles) - but then not say anything about part-of. -- Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team School of Computer Science The University of Manchester
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