# Re: PROV-ISSUE-642 (TomDN): Include example of provenance of a dictionary in the document [PROV-DICTIONARY]

From: Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:20:18 +0200
Message-ID: <CA+=hbbfbSfPTOSrFXP+ZevHNBuXb=rOK12qdchkF_D-CYruU+Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Cc: Provenance Working Group <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
True, but that would limit the example to the use of
wasDerivedByInsertionFrom, as all the keys of the starting lineup are the
same.
Technically, I could only show the players that are inserted into the 2012
roster, and remove all the hadDictionaryMember statements for
ex:2011_roster. This would still be valid, but less complete. We could
always do this in the document, and then refer to the full provenance in an
external file.

- Tom

2013/4/15 Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>

> Hi Tom,
>
> I like the example, but I wonder why you need to list all the players? Why
> not just list the starting line-up this would reduce the number of players
> you need to list.
>
> cool stuff,
> Paul
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Paul, all,
>>
>> In the latest draft of PROV-Dictionary, we've included a real-world
>> example of a dictionary and its provenance.
>>
>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/dictionary/Overview.html#example
>>
>> Could you share your thoughts on this?
>> Our only concern right now is that it is a bit long. Would you consider
>> this a problem?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/22 Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>
>>
>>> my apologies, this was for a different issue. Please ignore the previous
>>> email.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/22 Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>
>>>
>>>> The editors agree with this comment.
>>>>
>>>> The proposed resolution is to add the constraint
>>>> IF hadMember(d, e) and 'Dictionary' \in typeOf(d) THEN
>>>> hadDictionaryMember(d, e, "k") with k and unknown key
>>>> to PROV-Dictionary.
>>>>
>>>> If any members of the WG have an objection to this, we ask kindly to
>>>> inform us by replying to this email. If no objections are received before
>>>> Tuesday March 26th, we will assume this resolution is accepted,
>>>>
>>>> - Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/7 Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker <sysbot+tracker@w3.org>
>>>>
>>>>> PROV-ISSUE-642 (TomDN): Include example of provenance of a dictionary
>>>>> in the document [PROV-DICTIONARY]
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/642
>>>>>
>>>>> Raised by: Tom De Nies
>>>>> On product: PROV-DICTIONARY
>>>>>
>>>>> Originally raised by Paul, who would like to see a small example of
>>>>> the provenance of a dictionary in the document to illustrate the spec. We
>>>>> should do this by the final release.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/
> Assistant Professor
> - Web & Media Group | Department of Computer Science
> - The Network Institute
> VU University Amsterdam
>

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