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Re: PROV-ISSUE-463 (freimuth): comments from robert freimuth [prov-dm]

From: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:02:39 +0100
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To: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
CC: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Thanks Paul, text updated.
Luc

On 10/22/2012 07:39 PM, Paul Groth wrote:
> Luc,
>
> I would change/add:
>
> - The feedback was broken down in individual issues that were 
> addressed separately on this page. The group thanks for the reviewer 
> for the extensive comments!
> - The group made changes based on the reviewers feedback, please see 
> each issue for the relevant change.
> - Make a section UML
>
> cheers
> Paul
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk 
> <mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>
>     Dear all,
>
>     Find our response to the overall feedback raised by Robert. It was
>     broken down in issues that
>     were handled individually.
>
>     Luc
>
>
>>           ISSUE-463 (Overall Feedback)
>>
>>       * Original
>>         email:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-comments/2012Jul/0010.html
>>
>>           o Zip file with UML
>>             diagrams:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-comments/2012Jul/att-0010/PROV_Feedback.zip
>>
>>       * Tracker:http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/463
>>       * Group Response:
>>           o The feedback was broken down in individual issues that
>>             were addressed separately on this page.
>>           o The UML diagrams in PROV-DM are informative. They are
>>             intended to illustrate concepts as best as possible. The
>>             normative material is found in the text. There may be
>>             alternative UML modelling of the same normative definitions.
>>           o Alternative UML diagrams were proposed by the author of
>>             this feedback. Individual issues have addressed these
>>             points, but below we provide specific feedback on some
>>             UML diagrams.
>>               + Entities.png: Organization, Person, Software are not
>>                 entities (ISSUE-520), Bundles are not Collections
>>                 (ISSUE-524), and membership is expressed as a
>>                 relation and not an attribute (ISSUE-529)
>>               + Interactions.png: we did not find it suitable to
>>                 introduce a role (generatedEntity/UsedEntity) since
>>                 then we would have to introduce a different
>>                 identifier for the entity in that role. This would
>>                 result in very convoluted graphs, with lots of 'acts
>>                 as' relations. There is no startTime/endTime for
>>                 Invalidation, Usage, Generation, but simply a time. A
>>                 strong desire has been to facilitate the assertions
>>                 of provenance: ex:a2 prov:used <uri> and <uri>
>>                 wasGeneratedBy ex:a1
>>               + Relations.png: Alternate/Specialization/Membership do
>>                 not have id and attributes. Adoption is not a PROV
>>                 relation. PROV does not define activity composition.
>>       * References:
>>       * Changes to the document:
>>       * Original author's acknowledgement:
>>
>
>
>     On 07/25/2012 08:27 AM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>>     PROV-ISSUE-463 (freimuth): comments from robert freimuth [prov-dm]
>>
>>     http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/463
>>
>>     Raised by: Paul Groth
>>     On product: prov-dm
>>
>>     See emailhttp://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-comments/2012Jul/0010.html
>>
>>     This includes extensive uml diagrams as well as comments on role. See the attached Zip file for more info
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
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