Re: PROV-ISSUE-563 (primer-alternates-figure): Primer Section 3.9 Alternates [Primer]

Hi Simon

I guess what I was suggesting was just that -- to clarify in the primer. Is there a proposed alternative woding?

Thanks,
   -Paolo

On 09/10/2012 16:49, Miles, Simon wrote:
> Hi Paolo,
> Sorry, but I'm not clear what you are suggesting here?
> I agree that the statement you refer to can be inferred from the other statements if they were reasoned over, and is redundant in 
> that sense. Its purpose in the primer is to illustrate the use of the alternateOf relation. The reviewer has not understood the 
> specialization and alternate relations, suggesting the primer needs to be clearer.
> thanks,
> Simon
> Dr Simon Miles
> Senior Lecturer, Department of Informatics
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> *From:* Paolo Missier [Paolo.Missier@ncl.ac.uk]
> *Sent:* 27 September 2012 20:08
> *To:* public-prov-wg@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: PROV-ISSUE-563 (primer-alternates-figure): Primer Section 3.9 Alternates [Primer]
>
> Hi,
>
> not sure who raised this, but I believe that in the example of 3.9 the statement
>
> ex:articleV2 prov:alternateOf      ex:articleV1
>
> is redundant, since it follows by Inf. 20 in CONSTR.
>
> This may be noted explicitly but I would keep the statement, as it elicited a relevant comment.
>
> It seems that whoever raised the issue feels, like me, that specializations and alternates should not mix so freely.
>
> -Paolo
>
>
> On 9/26/12 4:42 PM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>> PROV-ISSUE-563 (primer-alternates-figure): Primer Section 3.9 Alternates [Primer]
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>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/563
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>> Raised by: Simon Miles
>> On product: Primer
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>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/LC_Feedback#Primer_Section_3.9
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>> ISSUE-463
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>> The figure makes clear the ambiguous interpretation of "alternateOf". Both V1 and V2 are different "specializations" of "article", yet they are declared to be alternates. I find this unintuitive.
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