- From: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:59:10 +0100
- To: Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Dear all,
We have had multiple threads discussing collections lately.
I would like to summarise what collections currently are in prov-dm, and
check whether it's still what people want.
1. A notion of EmptyDictionary: it's complete knowledge, no future
knowledge can change its empty nature
2. A relation insertion that completely list pairs to be added to a
dictionary, with an update semantics.
3 A relation removal that completely lists keys of pairs to be removed
from the dictionary
4. The property that the state of a dictionary is computable: given a
complete knowledge of a dictionary, any sequence of insertion/removal
leads to a dictionary whose state can exactly be computed.
5. Incomplete knowledge of a dictionary state can be modelled by not
specifying the initial state of a dictionary (see d1,d2 in example
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#example_53)
or by introducing derivations (see c2 in example
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-constraints.html#collections-and-derivation)
6 so far, no mention of membership relation!
So, if there are issues regarding CWA, they need to be discussed for
the above.
7. Membership defined, in this context, as a convenience notation for an
insertion operation into an unspecified dictionary.
See constraint 38 in prov-constraints
(http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-constraints.html#membership-as-insertion).
8. Complete membership defined, in this context, as a convenience
notation for an insertion operation into an empty dictionary.
9. There was a request to disallow complete membership. Given that this
is just a convenience notation, it's unclear why we do this? 1, 2, 3, 4
are all about complete knowledge of a dictionary state.
10. Prov-dm define a type prov:collection but NO relation that applies
to it.
11 a further point was discussed: can we specify a membership relation
for collections. given point 4 above, the axiomatisation of dictionary
requires comparison of its members. It's ok for dictionaries, since we
compare keys. It's unclear how we can make this compatible with a
membership for a collection of entities.
Where does it leave us?
1. Do we want to allow dictionaries for which we have complete knowledge
of the contents?
1.1 if yes, what's the point of removing the complete flag
1.2 if no, .... Go back to drawing board for dictionaries ....
... Realistically, that looks like the final nail ...
2. If we have specified dictionaries and their relations, then do we
need to specify some relations for collections?
--
Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487
University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865
Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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