Re: Votes (deadline Thursday noon, GMT): ISSUE-225, objects in the Universe of discourse

Hi Daniel,
I had left the call by then. I am not claiming that the proposals here 
were all discussed
yesterday, and vice-versa that all you discussed yesterday is reflected 
in the proposals.
There are other issues with accounts, which need to be taken into ... 
account.
Luc

On 01/24/2012 02:09 PM, Daniel Garijo wrote:
> Hi Luc,
> Accounts are missing. According to what we discussed yesterday, they 
> should be part of the
> universe of discourse.
>
> If you consider accounts as Entities, then they would be included in 
> proposal 1 (along with Agents),
> but some people argued that there could be cases of Accounts not being 
> Entities, so that's why I ask.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
> 2012/1/24 Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk 
> <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>>
>
>     All,
>
>     Paul and I have a strong desire to resolve the issue related to
>     identifiers before F2F2.
>
>     For information, we agreed on the following last week:
>     /    *All* objects of discourse ("entities") MUST be identifiable
>     by all participants in discourse. Object descriptions ("entity
>     records" and otherwise)     SHOULD use an unambiguous identifier
>     (either reusing an existing identifier, or introducing a new
>     identifier) for the objects described." (intent) /
>
>     So, the next challenge (ISSUE-225) is to agree on the objects that
>     belong to universe of discourse.
>     To facilitate the call on Thursday, we are putting forward a
>     series of proposals. Can
>     you express your support or not in the usual manner.   On Thursday
>     we will  discuss
>     proposals for which we didn't reach consensus.
>
>     Regards,
>     Luc
>
>     Proposal 1: Entities and Activities belong to the universe of
>     discourse.
>
>     Proposal 2: Events (Entity Usage event, Entity Generation Event,
>     Activity Start Event, Activity End event) belong to the universe of
>     discourse
>
>     Proposal 3: Derivation, Association, Responsibility chains,
>     Traceability, Activity Ordering, Revision, Attribution, Quotation,
>     Summary, Original SOurce, CollectionAfterInsertion/Collection After
>     removal belong to the universe of discourse.
>
>     Proposal 4: AlternateOf and SpecializationOf belong to the
>     universe of
>     discourse
>
>     Proposal 5: Records do not belong to the Universe of discourse
>                 This includes Account Record.
>
>     Proposal 6: Things do no belong to the universe of discourse
>       Note
>
>     Proposal 7: Note/hasAnnotation do not belong to the universe of
>     discourse
>
>     Proposal 8: Event ordering constraints do not belong to the
>     universe of
>     discourse.
>
>     Proposal 9: Attributes do not belong to the universe of discourse.
>
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Professor Luc Moreau
>     Electronics and Computer Science   tel:+44 23 8059 4487  <tel:%2B44%2023%208059%204487>
>     University of Southampton          fax:+44 23 8059 2865  <tel:%2B44%2023%208059%202865>
>     Southampton SO17 1BJ               email:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk  <mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
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>          
>
>

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Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
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