- From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:32:08 -0400
- To: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
- Cc: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Provenance Working Group <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
On Apr 20, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Paul Groth wrote: > I think it's hard to come-up with validity rules. In terms of being > from another author... I'm sure people will "quote themselves" but I > think that's a perfectly fine breakage of the normal definition of > quotation. +1 The "other author" can be prov:alternateOf the quoting agent :-) You're quoting yourself which was in a different context. I don't see a need to try to enforce distinctness. -Tim > > Paul > > > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: >> Ok, but how can we enforce it? What does it mean to be "other" in a PROV context? >> Do we need validity rules? >> >> >> Professor Luc Moreau >> Electronics and Computer Science >> University of Southampton >> Southampton SO17 1BJ >> United Kingdom >> >> On 20 Apr 2012, at 09:06, "Paul Groth" <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote: >> >>> Hi Luc, >>> >>> Err.. I took the definition of quotation directly from the dictionary :-) >>> >>> So you'd have to argue with them. >>> >>> cheers >>> Paul >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Provenance Working Group Issue >>> Tracker <sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote: >>>> PROV-ISSUE-357 (author-in-quotation): author in definition of quotation [prov-dm] >>>> >>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/357 >>>> >>>> Raised by: Luc Moreau >>>> On product: prov-dm >>>> >>>> >>>> The definition of Quotation [1] is: >>>> >>>> A quotation is the repeat of (some or all of) an entity, such as text or image, by someone other than its original author. >>>> >>>> Do we really mean that I wouldn't be entitled to quote myself? If it's the case, what does it mean to be "someone other than the original author"? are alternates OK? >>>> >>>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#concept-quotation >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl) >>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/ >>> Assistant Professor >>> Knowledge Representation & Reasoning Group >>> Artificial Intelligence Section >>> Department of Computer Science >>> VU University Amsterdam >>> > > > > -- > -- > Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl) > http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/ > Assistant Professor > Knowledge Representation & Reasoning Group > Artificial Intelligence Section > Department of Computer Science > VU University Amsterdam > >
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