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Re: actions related to collections

From: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:55:07 +0100
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To: Satya Sahoo <satya.sahoo@case.edu>
CC: Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Satya,

Thanks for your input.

Do I understand correctly that those two collections do not change: a 
cell line has a given number of cells, and the cohort involves a set of 

So, yes, I understand that removal/insertion are not necessary for such 
static collections.


On 18/04/12 17:35, Satya Sahoo wrote:
> Hi all,
> The issue I had raised last week is that collection is an important 
> provenance construct, but the assumption of only key-value pair based 
> collection is too narrow and the relations derivedByInsertionFrom, 
> Derivation-by-Removal are over specifications that are not required.
> I have collected the following examples for collection, which only 
> require the definition of the collection in DM5 (collection of 
> entities) and they don't have (a) a key-value structure, and (b) 
> derivedByInsertionFrom, derivedByRemovalFrom relations are not needed:
> 1. Cell line is a collection of cells used in many biomedical 
> experiments. The provenance of the cell line (as a collection) 
> include, who submitted the cell line, what method was used to 
> authenticate the cell line, when was the given cell line contaminated? 
> The provenance of the cells in a cell line include, what is the source 
> of the cells (e.g. organism)?
> 2. A patient cohort is a collection of patients satisfying some 
> constraints for a research study. The provenance of the cohort 
> include, what eligibility criteria were used to identify the cohort, 
> when was the cohort identified? The provenance of the patients in a 
> cohort may include their health provider etc.
> Hope this helps our discussion.
> Thanks.
> Best,
> Satya
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk 
> <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
>     Hi Jun and Satya,
>     Following today's call, ACTION-76 [1] and ACTION-77 [2] were
>     raised against you, as we agreed.
>     Cheers,
>     Luc
>     [1] https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/actions/76
>     [2] https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/actions/77
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