- From: Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:20:29 +0200
- To: public-prov-wg@w3.org
Dear all, I concur with what Satya wrote. And the example I had in mind is collection type of entities on the blog sphere of the Web. As we all know SIOC is a widely used vocabulary to describe entities in the online community sites, like blogs, wikis, etc. It has the concept of sioc:Container, which is defined as "a high-level concept used to group content Items together". The relationships between a sioc:Container and the sioc:Items or sioc:Posts that belong to it are described using sioc:container_of and sioc:has_container properties. The provenance of a sioc:Container could be who is/are responsible for the container, who created this container, and when. The provenance of a sioc:Post could include when the posted was published, when it was modified, by whom, based on which other posts, document or data. As you see, I am struggling to see how the key-value pair kind of structure could play in the above simple scenario. But please correct me if I am wrong. HTH, Jun On 18/04/2012 18:35, Satya Sahoo wrote: > Hi all, > The issue I had raised last week is that collection is an important > provenance construct, but the assumption of only key-value pair based > collection is too narrow and the relations derivedByInsertionFrom, > Derivation-by-Removal are over specifications that are not required. > > I have collected the following examples for collection, which only require > the definition of the collection in DM5 (collection of entities) and they > don't have (a) a key-value structure, and (b) derivedByInsertionFrom, > derivedByRemovalFrom relations are not needed: > 1. Cell line is a collection of cells used in many biomedical experiments. > The provenance of the cell line (as a collection) include, who submitted > the cell line, what method was used to authenticate the cell line, when was > the given cell line contaminated? The provenance of the cells in a cell > line include, what is the source of the cells (e.g. organism)? > > 2. A patient cohort is a collection of patients satisfying some constraints > for a research study. The provenance of the cohort include, what > eligibility criteria were used to identify the cohort, when was the cohort > identified? The provenance of the patients in a cohort may include their > health provider etc. > > Hope this helps our discussion. > > Thanks. > > Best, > Satya > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Luc Moreau<L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>wrote: > >> >> Hi Jun and Satya, >> >> Following today's call, ACTION-76 [1] and ACTION-77 [2] were raised >> against you, as we agreed. >> >> Cheers, >> Luc >> >> [1] https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/**track/actions/76<https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/actions/76> >> [2] https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/**track/actions/77<https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/actions/77> >> >> >
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