- From: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:55:17 +0100
- To: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
- Cc: Graham Klyne <Graham.Klyne@zoo.ox.ac.uk>, "Myers, Jim" <MYERSJ4@rpi.edu>, W3C provenance WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>, "Luc Moreau (L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk)" <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:37, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:
> cf:e2 a prov:Entity.
> cf:e2 cf:hasLocation dbpedia:Berlin.
> dbpedia:Berlin dbpedia-owl:leader dbpedia:Klaus_Wowereit.
> dbpedia:Klaus_Wowereit dbpprop:nationality dbpedia:Germany.
>
> Obviously, I can just keep building this massive graph using linked data.
> If that's the case what characterizes cf:e2?
> Is it just cf:hasLocation dbpedia:Berlin or is it everything else?
IMO:
Only
cf:e2 cf:hasLocation dbpedia:Berlin .
would be characterizing cf:e2.
dbpedia:Berlin is not characterized - unless it was also a prov:Entity.
Now I don't know the answer for anonymous nodes:
cf:e2 a prov:Entity.
cf:e2 cf:hasLocation [
dbpedia-owl:leader [
foaf:name "Klaus Wowereit"
dbpprop:nationality dbpedia:Germany
],
]
My simple reading of this is that cf:e2 has a location of somewhere
where the German called Klaus Wowereit is "the leader" - but neither
Hr Bürgermeister Wowereit or the implied Berlin is a "characterising
attribute".
If we distance ourselves slightly from the notions of "characterising
attributes" we can just say that the properties stated directly on (or
with?) an entity was true/fixed attributes throughout the lifetime of
the entity. Any nested propertioes might or might not have been true/
throughout that lifetime. (Thus cf:e2 could have existed in Berlin
before Hr Wowereit became the mayor).
I suggest that if you also want to lock down such things, then do
those properties as other prov:Entities, (either anonymous or named):
cf:e2 a prov:Entity ;
cf:hasLocation cf:berlinWithKlaus .
cf:berlinWithKlaus a prov:Entity, prov:Location ;
prov:wasComplementOf dbpedia:Berlin ;
dbpedia-owl:leader cf:klausTheMayor .
cf:klausTheMayor a prov:Entity ;
prov:wasComplementOf dbpedia:Klaus_Wowereit ;
dbpedia:Klaus_Wowereit dbpprop:nationality dbpedia:Germany .
Thus throughout the lifetime of cf:e2, the thing described by e2 was
in Berlin, and throughout that time (at least as long as e2 existed)
Klaus Wowereit was the leader, being German (The pre-1990
Klaus-the-West-German was not the leader during the lifetime of
cf:berlinWithKlaus).
Note that such an interpretation would introduce temporal dependencies
between cf:e2 and cf:klausTheMayor which are not currently covered by
PROV-DM (there are no prov:derivedFrom or wasComplementOf links
between cf:e2 and Berlin) - if the provenance otherwise showed that
Klaus became mayor (when cf:klausTheMayor was generated) *afte*r cf:e2
was generated, then the provenance account is inconsistent, but this
can't be shown by the constraints of PROV-DM as far as I can tell.
Note that PROV-DM does not specifically allow such nesting of
attribute values, there all attribute values are strings. If a
property value was to be interpreted as a URI or identifier of another
entity or other resource, than that seems outside of scope for PROV-DM
- so we can take the same view in PROV-O.
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
School of Computer Science
The University of Manchester
Received on Thursday, 20 October 2011 12:56:16 UTC