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Re: PROV-O telcon

From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:25:04 -0500
Cc: Satya Sahoo <satya.sahoo@case.edu>, Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>, Khalid Belhajjame <Khalid.Belhajjame@cs.man.ac.uk>, Daniel Garijo <dgarijov@gmail.com>, James Cheney <jcheney@inf.ed.ac.uk>, "Deborah L. McGuinness" <dlm@cs.rpi.edu>, Paolo Missier <Paolo.Missier@ncl.ac.uk>, Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
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To: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Luc,

I encoded your example at 

http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/ae888d256478/ontology/components/wasDerivedFrom/public-prov-wg-2011Nov-0123.ttl

When mapping to RDF, "having an identifier" does not have a distinction, since it is an rdfs:Resource in either case.

(Although bnodes are "less identified", there is no way to enforce that they rename so. - the bnodes in [1] could be equivalently read as "proper" URIs)

[1] http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Qualifed_Involvements_in_PROV-O


Regards,
Tim




On Nov 7, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Luc Moreau wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> 
> One more question on the proposal. How do you propose to handle derivation such as:
> 
> wasDerivedFrom(e4,e2,pe2,qualifier(ex:port=smtp, ex:section="attachment"),qualifier(ex:fct="attach"))?
> 
> The reason why we introduced the use qualifier and the generation qualifier is that we had
> no identifiers for them.  If we have identifiers for these qualified involvements, we would
> have this kind of derivation record:
> 
> wasDerivedFrom(e4,e2,pe2,genId,useId)
> 
> Luc
> 
> On 06/11/11 22:07, Timothy Lebo wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Satya Sahoo wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> The following is the agenda for our ontology telcon tomorrow at 12:00noon US EST (please note the corresponding time in Europe):
>>> 
>>> 1. Review the OPMO-based solution for modeling role information in PROV-O OWL and the instantiation as RDF using James's "division example" (Tim, Daniel, Stephan)
>> 
>> 
>> Writeup is at http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Qualifed_Involvements_in_PROV-O
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 2. Review the modified html document - (a) examples for wasRevisionOf, Recipe etc. (b) classes in "holding section", (c) properties in "holding section"
>>> 
>>> 3. Review new section in html document - Mapping PROV-DM to PROV-O
>>> 
>>> 4. Discuss proposal for simplifying the PROV-O for readers/users by re-structuring some of the properties in a "core" and an "extended" model
>> 
>> For this, I'd like to remind the group about http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PROV_OWL_ontology_components
>> I'd also like to get acknowledgement that this can or will be used as we move forward.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 5. Discuss addition of diagrams for some of the object properties
>>> 
>>> We will use the Zakim bridge for the call +1.617.761.6200, conference 695 ("OWL") and the titanpad for taking notes (Tim, can you please send out the link to the titanpad?)
>> 
>> -Tim
>> 


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