Re: PROV-ISSUE-147 (Replace recipe): Change the name if "Recipe" [Data Model]

How do you define capable?

Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science
University of Southampton
Southampton SO17 1BJ
United Kingdom


On 7 Nov 2011, at 16:33, "Satya Sahoo" <satya.sahoo@case.edu<mailto:satya.sahoo@case.edu>> wrote:

Hi Luc,
An email client process is capable of activity not the email client program code. A blueprint for a welding robot is not capable of action, a welding robot is capable of welding.

A workflow script is not capable of activity, it is a plan (for activity) - an executing workflow is capable of action.

Best,
Satya

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
Hi Satya,

You seem to indicate that an agent should be 'running', an instance of a process.
Where did we say that an agent should be like this?
We just defined agent as an entity capable of activity. I feel that my workflow script
in capable of activity.

Luc


On 11/07/2011 04:24 PM, Satya Sahoo wrote:
Hi Luc,
Comments on your example are interleaved


However, take an activity run by my email client. I would argue that my email
client executable is a specification of an activity and is also a plan.
In this specific case, what's the difference between a Plan and a (Software) Agent?


The code for the email client is a specification vs. email client process corresponding to the distinction between a program (in memory or on disk etc.) and a process (being actively executed).

A program can have multiple processes, similar to the blueprint of a welding robot, reconnaissance drone and actual robots, drones etc.

The same question also applies to a workflow script, controlling an activity.  Is it an agent
or a plan?


Workflow script is a "plan" or "recipe" or "specification" etc. and not an agent.

Best,
Satya

Thanks,
Luc


On 11/07/2011 03:28 PM, Satya Sahoo wrote:
+1 for replacing Recipe.

Plan is a nice alternative - should we make it Activity/Process Plan (corresponds to the Activity/Process Execution)?

Best,
Satya

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker <sysbot+tracker@w3.org<mailto:sysbot%2Btracker@w3.org>> wrote:

PROV-ISSUE-147 (Replace recipe): Change the name if "Recipe" [Data Model]

http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/147

Raised by: James McCusker
On product: Data Model

We chose Recipe to be explicitly clear about the use of a method or plan to guide a ProcessExecution. We should find a broader term that isn't as tied to the cake example. This is what I recommend. We start with the term "Recipe" and replace it with ever more general terms that are unambiguous. We then accept the broadest possible term that cannot be confused with an occurrent.

My first cut is "Plan". It's short, simple, and unambiguous. I think it's sufficiently general to cover the definition of "Recipe" without being confused with "Process".







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