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Re: prov-dm expression: a proposal to vote on (deadline Wednesday midnight GMT)

From: Reza B'Far (Oracle) <reza.bfar@oracle.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:01:54 -0700
Message-ID: <4EB17782.2090400@oracle.com>
To: public-prov-wg@w3.org
+1 on both proposals from Luc. I also prefer "Statement" over 
"Expression" or "Record", but even if we go with "Expression", still 
improvement over current status.

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On 11/2/11 8:45 AM, Satya Sahoo wrote:
> Hi,
> I like James suggestion for using "Statement" instead of either 
> "expression" or "record".
>
> 0 (in favor of "Entity statement", "xxx statement").
>
> Best,
> Satya
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:01 AM, James Cheney <jcheney@inf.ed.ac.uk 
> <mailto:jcheney@inf.ed.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     0 - I think either "expression" or "record" is fine.  "Statement"
>     would also be fine - in my view these are closer to declarative
>     statements than "expressions" that you'd evaluate in a programming
>     language.  "Record" might be confusing if the entities are also
>     records, but this is true for "expression" and "statement" too.
>
>     --James
>>
>>     On 10/28/2011 03:17 PM, Luc Moreau wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Dear all,
>>>
>>>     In the interest of simplification, we would like to make the
>>>     following
>>>     proposal about terminology in prov-dm.
>>>
>>>     The context:
>>>
>>>     Following this week's call, the prov-dm document will introduce
>>>     concepts such as entity and activity in section 2, and define
>>>     'entity
>>>     expression' and 'activity expression' in section 5.  In section
>>>     5 (see
>>>     table of contents of [1]), all terms of the data model have been
>>>     suffixed by the suffix 'expression', which allows us to distinguish
>>>     terms of the data model (i.e. what we say in provenance records)
>>>     from
>>>     the things in the world.
>>>
>>>
>>>     The problem:
>>>
>>>     While this distinction is important, the choice of word is not
>>>     ideal.
>>>     The suffix 'expression' has a strong connotation of language,
>>>     and the reader may
>>>     think that we talk about expressions in the abstract syntax
>>>     notation.
>>>     It's not the case!  We really mean elements of the data model.
>>>
>>>     Proposal:
>>>     /Rename 'Entity Expression' into 'Entity Record'; similarly,
>>>     rename 'XXX Expression' into 'XXX Record'./
>>>
>>>     Can you please express your support for this proposal by Wednesday
>>>     midnight GMT, and we will confirm it at the next teleconference.
>>>
>>>     Luc
>>>
>>>     [1]
>>>     http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Professor Luc Moreau
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>
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