Re: concept illustrations for the data journalism example

Hi Paul,

I thought that where it says "The government portal not only makes the 
data available but also publishes how the data was generated" not only 
tools to make the conversion but also provenance information were 
published.

In case only the newspaper publishes provenance information it would 
simplify the example. Probably an easier starting point.

Best Regards


On 05/10/2011 01:13 PM, Paul Groth wrote:
> Hi Iker,
>
> In the example, we say that "To be transparent, the newspaper 
> publishes a document describing the provenance of the chart including 
> where it got the data from but also what tools and assumptions it used 
> to create the chart."
>
> So it's the newspaper not the government that's publishing provenance. 
> Does that cover what you want?
>
> cheers,
> Paul
>
> Iker Huerga wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>  From my point of view the data journalism example perfectly illustrates
>> the provenance concepts.
>>
>> I just would like to make a couple of questions regarding the example.
>>
>>    1. As stated in the charter "Provenance Interchange Working Group has
>>       the following objective: [...] and define methods to publish and
>>       access provenance". So, should we add a second processing steps as
>>       follows: "government (gov) generates provenance information (prov)
>>       regarding RDF (f1)" or is it already assumed?
>>    2. And in that case, Provenance information generation process will
>>       be carried out during the conversion process or in a different 
>> one?
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Iker
>>
>> On 05/10/2011 11:30 AM, Paul Groth wrote:
>>> Hi All:
>>>
>>> I asked for feedback on the proposed data journalism example [1] by
>>> Monday. There was not a lot of discussion so I hope it's safe to
>>> assume that the example was considered to be a good start.
>>>
>>> To help the discussion get going, I've put up a page [2] that lists
>>> each concept from the charter and illustration of it from the example.
>>>
>>> It would be good to see if we agree whether these illustrations
>>> actually illustrate the concepts.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ProvenanceExample
>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/CharterConceptsIllustration
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Iker Huerga Sánchez
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Polo de Innovación Garaia
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