- From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
- Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:19:05 +0100
- To: Daniel Garijo <dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es>
- CC: Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>, public-prov-wg@w3.org
Daniel, I was assuming that such properties (like time of generation) would be associated with some level of process or process execution, but maybe I misunderstand the intent. I think it's sometimes hard trying to define things in isolation - and maybe we see things fitting together in different ways. When I looked at both OPM and PML, I thought there was a core of ideas common to both that included "resources", "processes", "provenance" and some fundamental ways in which they are related. I think it's this core of inescapable notions and their relationships that's maybe more interesting than their individual definitions. #g -- Daniel Garijo wrote: > Hi Jun, all. > I think that it refers to the /generation provenance /that you talk > about in > the last lines of your definition. Having "generation" as a concept would > allow to add more metadata about when was a resource/resource > state/resource state representation > generated, where, etc. > > If we treat the generation as a property, we will have to add more > properties > to describe the generation of the resource (like wasGeneratedAtTime, > wasGeneratedAtPlace, etc). > Daniel > > 2011/5/31 Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org <mailto:GK@ninebynine.org>> > > I agree. > > #g > -- > > > > Jun Zhao wrote: > > I propose Generation should be a relationship rather than a concept. > > See > http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ConceptGeneration#Definition_by_Jun > > cheers, > > Jun > > On 20/05/2011 08:07, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote: > > > PROV-ISSUE-8 (define-generation): Definition for Concept > 'Generation' [Provenance Terminology] > > http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/8 > > Raised by: Luc Moreau > On product: Provenance Terminology > > The Provenance WG charter identifies the concept > 'Generation' as a core concept of the provenance interchange > language to be standardized (see > http://www.w3.org/2011/01/prov-wg-charter). > > What term do we adopt for the concept 'Generation'? > How do we define the concept 'Generation'? > Where does concept 'Generation' appear in ProvenanceExample? > Which provenance query requires the concept 'Generation'? > > Wiki page: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ConceptGeneration > > > > > > > > >
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