- From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 08:53:28 +0100
- To: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
- CC: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Paul, Luc, Agreed. I'm happy to revisit this, but if we are to enter the fray of (e.g.) adding new attributes for HTML elements, or creating new metadata structures I think we need a really compelling use-case. Before we go there, I think we need to stand back and understand how the various moving parts we already have can work together. I am intending to draft something about this, but I'm waiting for the PIDM entity/view debate to settle. #g -- On 26/08/2011 05:05, Paul Groth wrote: > Hi Luc, > > I think we want to express this pairing of context-uri and > provenance-uri as done in the http header case. > > However, the question is how we do this in the html case. Obviously, we > could create a set of metadata to allow this. However, it's not > supported by the link html tag. > > I guess are general approach was to have something that reused already > well known bits of html metadata (e.g. the link tag), which lead to not > making the binding between the a context-uri and a provenance-uri. Also, > this approach meant we had a nice parallel to the http header case. > > We can look again at this but I hope that it explains the trade-off. > > cheers > Paul > > > Paul Groth wrote: >> Hi Luc, >> >> I think we want to express this pairing of context-uri and >> provenance-uri as done in the http header case. >> >> However, the question is how we do this in the html case. Obviously, we >> could create a set of metadata to allow this. However, it's not >> supported by the link html tag. >> >> I guess are general approach was to have something that reused already >> well known bits of html metadata (e.g. the link tag), which lead to not >> making the binding between the a context-uri and a provenance-uri. Also, >> this approach meant we had a nice parallel to the http header case. >> >> We can look again at this but I hope that it explains the trade-off. >> >> cheers >> Paul >> >> >> >> Luc Moreau wrote: >>> Hi Graham, >>> >>> Thanks, you have the same response as Olaf. >>> I followed with this comment: >>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Aug/0306.html >>> >>> Again, it's about allowing applications to make intelligent choices. We >>> don't >>> offer them this opportunity, because nothing distinguishes the various >>> options. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Luc >>> >>> On 25/08/11 15:01, Graham Klyne wrote: >>>> On 22/08/2011 23:50, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote: >>>>> PROV-ISSUE-78 (contexts-and-provenance-uris): multiple contexts and >>>>> provenance-uris [Accessing and Querying Provenance] >>>>> >>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/78 >>>>> >>>>> Raised by: Luc Moreau >>>>> On product: Accessing and Querying Provenance >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We seem to allow for multiple context-uris and provenance-uris to be >>>>> provided. >>>>> I am fine with this. >>>>> >>>>> But don't we want to be able to say, for instance: >>>>> >>>>> context-uri1 provenance-uri1 >>>>> context-uri1 provenance-uri2 >>>>> context-uri2 provenance-uri3 >>>>> context-uri2 provenance-uri4 >>>>> >>>>> Do we want to be able to express this? Can this be expressed? >>>> It can be expressed usingthe HTTP Link: header, but not using the HTML >>>> <link> element. >>>> >>>> I discussed this with Paul, and we agreed between ourselves that it's >>>> not a problem. I'm planning to add some more introductory text that I >>>> hope will provide some (ahem) context for this. I propose we discuss >>>> further when I've done that. >>>> >>>> #g >>>> -- >>>> >>> >
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