- From: Mike O'Neill <michael.oneill@baycloud.com>
- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:46:36 -0000
- To: "'Danny Weitzner'" <djweitzner@csail.mit.edu>, "'Rigo Wenning'" <rigo@w3.org>, <public-privacy@w3.org>
- Cc: "'David Singer'" <singer@apple.com>
- Message-ID: <032701d03a1e$89723ea0$9c56bbe0$@baycloud.com>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 There is also a international dimension, with transatlantic agreements on privacy, cybersecurity and surveillance being publically discussed, and it is clear these things are interrelated, addressing one will always involve consideration of the others. There does not have to be a trade-off, no need to forgo privacy for the sake of security. We should be able to build a system with them all. What is needed is a clearly expressed “statement of requirements” i.e. we want to protect privacy and security within a transparent and democratically accountable framework which, for example, allows law enforcement to do its job (using warranted surveillance if necessary), but rules out mass surveillance. Because the net knows no borders there has to be a transnational component. The W3C could then do its part helping to create the necessary protocols and standards, while the politicians take charge of the oversight process and creating the legal environment. Mike From: Danny Weitzner [mailto:djweitzner@csail.mit.edu] Sent: 27 January 2015 01:15 To: Rigo Wenning; public-privacy@w3.org Cc: David Singer Subject: Re: On the european response to Snowden further decoding: the EU has no authority over national security matters (ie foreign intelligence gathering) in its member states. Directive Rigo mentions will apply to law enforcement -- a good start, but not sufficient. On Mon Jan 26 2015 at 12:54:41 PM Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org> wrote: On Monday 26 January 2015 9:52:35 David Singer wrote: > interesting article > > <http://www.ecfr.eu/publications/summary/mass_surveillance_privacy_and_secur > ity_europes_confused_response329> Decoding: The privacy regulation is under way and shall be voted in 2015. But it only touches on data protection and communications of the private sector. There is a parallel "Directive" on data protection in government. Directive means that it isn't directly nationally applicable (the regulation above will be). A Directive needs a national legislative act to be effective. This Directive touches on the issue of Pervasive Monitoring. There is debate, but the debate is somewhat silenced by other issues, like Greece, the war in Ukraine. Also the freedom of speech against islamist threatening is at the forefront as you can imagine BTW, while the discussion is somewhat low in France, Italy and Greece, the debate on Pervasive Monitoring is happening in the Netherlands, Germany and Belgium. There is certainly a tension between what governments would like to do and what the population is willing to let them do in terms of surveillance. - --Rigo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (MingW32) Comment: Using gpg4o v3.4.19.5391 - http://www.gpg4o.com/ Charset: utf-8 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUx2yLAAoJEHMxUy4uXm2JkrkH/RPppNjeXQZCNfmuCKfyv+eE 403K0IdpBvvpFPwrvBSrZWzHQyssWVXBh75d2Y9NFKKAbW2/uPUS+jT8TE+st477 Lyhy8jSY5oPLmIwic9YW41K3kM5Tk0Dj2vkZBtxM7JM4wHkFsZi03Fz5AkpNFOsT mbDVVHkbM3rVbuIr7e4WNucrnLBYIDIrz2SSLb1Zwf84yfcxGqCrHjmcunKzWujl HUlD8c9903kJupuJplMuWjLGP6T2Dv/5jhAifXevY1RroCT6B/+DGOVnjXsfgAwT QuN6USGKnSxKuyLqlaIJ1jsPpxdvqHHSgv4P2OCtkB8c23BAYQ0p6qtN5kq+KAw= =hTP5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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