Re: One by one, but not in bulk

Will do.

On 06/09/2016 16:22, benedict.whittamsmith@thomsonreuters.com wrote:
> Thank you Stuart!
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> Phil - I think you should add two use cases: a prohibition on web-scraping; and rate-limiting for APIs. Both are common use cases.
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> Ben
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Myles, Stuart [mailto:SMyles@ap.org]
>> Sent: 06 September 2016 16:15
>> To: Phil Archer; Whittam Smith, Benedict (TR Technology & Ops); public-
>> poe-wg@w3.org
>> Subject: RE: One by one, but not in bulk
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>> I think you'd need to figure out how you could express this "not in
>> bulk" requirement in terms that a machine could understand.
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>> For example, you might be able to express this as a restriction on how
>> frequently the API could be called. Or by imposing a limit to the
>> number of times it could be called within a given timeframe. (Both of
>> these are typical "rate limiting" strategies for APIs).
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>> Regards,
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>> Stuart
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: Phil Archer [mailto:phila@w3.org]
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>> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:21 AM
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>> To: benedict.whittamsmith@thomsonreuters.com; public-poe-wg@w3.org
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>> Subject: Re: One by one, but not in bulk
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>> On 06/09/2016 14:18, benedict.whittamsmith@thomsonreuters.com wrote:
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>>> Hi Phil,
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>>> I think a odrl:Prohibition on screen-scraping would likely be a very
>> common requirement. I'm not sure if screen-scraping would come under
>> odrl:extract - but perhaps we can provide some guidance here.
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>>> As to downloading one-by-one rather than by collection: does the API
>> provide two methods, one of which is prohibited? Seems a bit odd to me
>> at first glance.
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>> No, what I mean is you're not allowed to hit the API repeatedly and
>> thereby collect the full dataset, not that there's a big red button
>> marked "do not push!"
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>> Phil
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>>> Ben
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> From: Phil Archer [mailto:phila@w3.org]
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>>>> Sent: 06 September 2016 14:05
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>>>> To: POE WG
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>>>> Subject: One by one, but not in bulk
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>>>> I had a quick look through the use cases but can't immediately
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>>>> identify one that covers one that just came up at a Big Data Europe
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>>>> meeting; so can I check whether this is new or already covered or
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>>>> doable in ODRL please?
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>>>> You can use our API to access one item at a time, but you may not
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>>>> download the full set as bulk (including by screen-scraping).
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>>>> Is this new? (it's definitely a real case).
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>>>> Thanks
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>>>> Phil.
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>>>> Phil Archer
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>>>> W3C Data Activity Lead
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>>>> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
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