RE: One by one, but not in bulk

Thank you Stuart!

Phil - I think you should add two use cases: a prohibition on web-scraping; and rate-limiting for APIs. Both are common use cases.

Ben

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Myles, Stuart [mailto:SMyles@ap.org]
> Sent: 06 September 2016 16:15
> To: Phil Archer; Whittam Smith, Benedict (TR Technology & Ops); public-
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> Subject: RE: One by one, but not in bulk
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> I think you'd need to figure out how you could express this "not in
> bulk" requirement in terms that a machine could understand.
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> For example, you might be able to express this as a restriction on how
> frequently the API could be called. Or by imposing a limit to the
> number of times it could be called within a given timeframe. (Both of
> these are typical "rate limiting" strategies for APIs).
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> Regards,
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> Stuart
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> From: Phil Archer [mailto:phila@w3.org]
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:21 AM
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> To: benedict.whittamsmith@thomsonreuters.com; public-poe-wg@w3.org
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> Subject: Re: One by one, but not in bulk
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> On 06/09/2016 14:18, benedict.whittamsmith@thomsonreuters.com wrote:
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> > Hi Phil,
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> > I think a odrl:Prohibition on screen-scraping would likely be a very
> common requirement. I'm not sure if screen-scraping would come under
> odrl:extract - but perhaps we can provide some guidance here.
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> > As to downloading one-by-one rather than by collection: does the API
> provide two methods, one of which is prohibited? Seems a bit odd to me
> at first glance.
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> No, what I mean is you're not allowed to hit the API repeatedly and
> thereby collect the full dataset, not that there's a big red button
> marked "do not push!"
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> Phil
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> > Ben
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> >> -----Original Message-----
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> >> From: Phil Archer [mailto:phila@w3.org]
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> >> Sent: 06 September 2016 14:05
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> >> To: POE WG
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> >> Subject: One by one, but not in bulk
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> >> I had a quick look through the use cases but can't immediately
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> >> identify one that covers one that just came up at a Big Data Europe
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> >> meeting; so can I check whether this is new or already covered or
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> >> doable in ODRL please?
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> >> You can use our API to access one item at a time, but you may not
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> >> download the full set as bulk (including by screen-scraping).
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> >> Is this new? (it's definitely a real case).
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> >> Thanks
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> >> Phil.
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> >> Phil Archer
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> >> W3C Data Activity Lead
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