- From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:09:21 -0500
- To: "Chaals McCathie Nevile" <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
- Cc: "John Foliot" <john.foliot@deque.com>, "'PF'" <public-pfwg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <OF2CBF8BF2.AB7FF9EE-ON86257EDD.00794F5D-86257EDD.0079B4F8@us.ibm.com>
The use case for having destination semantics to drive a consistent UI is clear for coga. The issue is which semantic values for destination can be clearly articulated in time for ARIA 1.1. They indeed need to have clear use cases and definitions for the values. The DPUB ARIA have clear use cases for the aria-destination values that came out of EPUB structural semantics and authoring. That only includes 4-5 discreet tokens. If the coga folks could articulate some values as a start that meeti above for ARIA 1.1 they can continue to develop them post ARIA 1.1 for later inclusion. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger From: "Chaals McCathie Nevile" <chaals@yandex-team.ru> To: "'PF'" <public-pfwg@w3.org>, Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, "John Foliot" <john.foliot@deque.com> Date: 10/13/2015 09:24 AM Subject: Re: Issue-742: Proposal aria-destination On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:59:01 +0200, John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com> wrote: > Chaals McCathie Nevile wrote: >> >> An alternative approach would be to use the rev attribute for this case, >> as this seems to be a pretty sound use case. > > Small problem there though Chaals: @rev is now obsolete in HTML5... > http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/#obsolete-attributes Yes. I actually checked, and meant to be more explicit, as I was for some of the rel values that ahd been proposed for HTML4 and not taken up at the time. But that's a decision, in part based on little interest in implementation, presumably in turn based on no compelling use case. If DPub or COGA or anyone else want to make things into standards and ship them, we get use cases, requirements, and presumably implementation commitment (without that, dreaming up ideas is just a pleasant pastime anyway). Attributes have been removed, and then reinstated, before now, based on compelling use cases, a sense that a new thing of the same name isn't an improvement, and demonstrated implementation uptake. cheers > (Don't shoot the messenger) > > JF > -- Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex chaals@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com
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