RE: Action-1734, Action-1708, Action-1709: Proposal for a Figure Role

+1

 

Captions are not long descriptions, and long descriptions are not captions:
different content, often different audience member.

 

JF

 

 

From: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken [mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 8:35 AM
To: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>; public-pfwg@w3.org
Subject: RE: Action-1734, Action-1708, Action-1709: Proposal for a Figure
Role

 

Hi Rich,

 

I understand that this question is regarding a specialized case (multiple
images in one <figure> element). Please realize that the described scenario
is very common in publishing. Further, publishing almost never uses
<figcaption> in lieu of descriptions. Rather, we use it to caption images in
publications. We have textbooks, journals, magazines, etc. with hundreds of
captioned images that need both descriptions and captions. It is important
to be able to provide both without confusion. 

 

Tzviya

 

Tzviya Siegman

Digital Book Standards & Capabilities Lead

Wiley

201-748-6884

tsiegman@wiley.com <mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>  

 

From: Richard Schwerdtfeger [mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 12:45 PM
To: public-pfwg@w3.org <mailto:public-pfwg@w3.org> 
Subject: Re: Action-1734, Action-1708, Action-1709: Proposal for a Figure
Role

 

Hi Jason, 

This is in response to this post from you:
<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Oct/0025.html>
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Oct/0025.html and my
action item 1734.

I spoke with Steve Faulkner and he stated captions were more being used as
descriptions and not basic captions. Consequently He had asked that a
reference to a caption be a reference to a description and by default this
meant an aria-describedby mapping to the long description. In HTML Steve was
going to map <caption> through an aria-describedby relationship. 

... Note: we are talking about extended descriptions in which case we would
not want the results to be stringified and I think we can address this by
placing a new type of extended Role attribute on the caption area. 

Rich


Rich Schwerdtfeger