Re: make aria-owns to rearrange children

Thanks, Rich!
This is totally fine with me. Having consensus in the group is more
importation than versions :)
Alex.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> That makes sense.
>
> I created an issue:
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/701
>
> It is getting a bit late for ARIA 1.1 but we will see what the group says.
> It could be ARIA 2.0.
>
> Rich
>
> Rich Schwerdtfeger
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Alexander Surkov ---02/15/2015 10:08:34
> AM---Hi. aria-owns is used to define parent-child relationshi]Alexander
> Surkov ---02/15/2015 10:08:34 AM---Hi. aria-owns is used to define
> parent-child relationship [1]. The spec says
>
> From: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com>
> To: "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <public-pfwg@w3.org>, James Teh <
> jamie@nvaccess.org>, nohuhu@nohuhu.org
> Date: 02/15/2015 10:08 AM
> Subject: make aria-owns to rearrange children
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi.
>
> aria-owns is used to define parent-child relationship [1]. The spec says
> nothing how aria-owns affects on between-siblings relations, i.e. where
> aria-owns children have to be in the hierarchy. So there's no way for the
> author to control the ordering of explicit and aria-owns children. The idea
> [2] was to let aria-owns to refer its own children to change the ordering.
> For example,
>
> <div role="grid"
> <div role="row" aria-owns="c1 c2 c3 c4">
>   <div role="gridcell" id="c1">cell1</div>
>   <div role="gridcell" id="c2">cell1</div>
> </div>
> </div>
>
> <!-- somewhere in the DOM -->
> <div role="gridcell" id="c3">cell1</div>
> <div role="gridcell" id="c4">cell1</div>
>
> In this case role="row" would contain 4 cells in the order specified by
> aria-owns.
>
> If the idea looks reasonable then the spec could be changed this way
>
> Insert after existing wording:
> "The *value* <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/terms#def_value> of the
> aria-owns *attribute* <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/terms#def_attribute> is
> a space-separated list of IDREFS that reference one or more elements in the
> document by ID."
>
> something like:
> "The order the referred elements listed in the value should be preserved
> when their parent-child relationship is set. All explicit unreferred
> children should be considered followed aria-owns elements."
>
> Thanks.
> Alexander.
>
> [1] *http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/states_and_properties#aria-owns*
> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/states_and_properties#aria-owns>
> [2] *https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1133213*
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1133213>
>
>