Re: aria-modal (Was: @inert and @aria-inert for disambiguating modal states)

+1


Rich Schwerdtfeger



From:	James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>
To:	Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com>, Richard
            Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
Cc:	Dominic Mazzoni <dmazzoni@google.com>, James Craig
            <jcraig@apple.com>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats
            <public-pfwg@w3.org>
Date:	11/07/2014 11:47 AM
Subject:	Re: aria-modal (Was: @inert and @aria-inert for disambiguating
            modal  states)



I'd put it on window so it inherits to alertdialog too.
But other than that +1


On 11/7/2014 9:24 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
      I'm up for role="dialog" + aria-modal="true" approach.

      On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <
      schwer@us.ibm.com> wrote:
        Sounds like we agree that aria-inert should be dropped. Anyone
        disagree?


        Rich Schwerdtfeger

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        "james.nurthen@oracle.com" ---11/06/2014
                  09:24:15
        PM---I agree. While I think event silencing
                  and
        foc"james.nurthen@oracle.com" ---11/06/2014 09:24:15 PM---I agree.
        While I think event silencing and focus management are a useful
        feature they are not approp

        From: "james.nurthen@oracle.com" <james.nurthen@oracle.com>
        To: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
        Cc: Dominic Mazzoni <dmazzoni@google.com>, W3C WAI Protocols &
        Formats <public-pfwg@w3.org>
        Date: 11/06/2014 09:24 PM
        Subject: Re: aria-modal (Was: @inert and @aria-inert for
        disambiguating modal states)




        I agree. While I think event silencing and focus management are a
        useful feature they are not appropriate for an aria- attribute.
        As far as I can see aria-modal solves the problem at hand and I see
        no reason to have an aria-inert.


        On Nov 6, 2014, at 6:36 PM, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com> wrote:
              @aria-modal would not do the focus management and event
              silencing that @inert would, but a new @aria-inert attr would
              not be able to do that either.


              On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:59 PM, James Nurthen <
              james.nurthen@oracle.com> wrote:
                    In that case I see no need for aria-inert.

                    Are there other use cases that ACTION-1347 would not
                    address?

                    Regards,
                    James


                    On 11/6/2014 12:52 PM, James Craig wrote:
                          On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Dominic Mazzoni
                          <dmazzoni@google.com> wrote:

                          Agreed, I'd love to see @aria-modal to go with
                          role=dialog. Obviously the html5 dialog element
                          is even better, but not all browsers support that
                          yet.

                          On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:40 PM, James Nurthen
                          <james.nurthen@oracle.com> wrote:
                          I see the need for a developer to state whether
                          their dialogs are modal or not.
                          We have a 1.1 action for that.

                          ACTION-1347: Add an attribute for differentiating
                          modal vs non-modal dialogs/menus/etc. (possibly
                          aria-modal)
                          https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1347



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