Re: aria-modal (Was: @inert and @aria-inert for disambiguating modal states)

I'm up for role="dialog" + aria-modal="true" approach.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
wrote:

> Sounds like we agree that aria-inert should be dropped. Anyone disagree?
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> Rich Schwerdtfeger
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> 09:24:15 PM---I agree. While I think event silencing and foc]"
> james.nurthen@oracle.com" ---11/06/2014 09:24:15 PM---I agree. While I
> think event silencing and focus management are a useful feature they are
> not approp
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> From: "james.nurthen@oracle.com" <james.nurthen@oracle.com>
> To: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
> Cc: Dominic Mazzoni <dmazzoni@google.com>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <
> public-pfwg@w3.org>
> Date: 11/06/2014 09:24 PM
> Subject: Re: aria-modal (Was: @inert and @aria-inert for disambiguating
> modal states)
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> I agree. While I think event silencing and focus management are a useful
> feature they are not appropriate for an aria- attribute.
> As far as I can see aria-modal solves the problem at hand and I see no
> reason to have an aria-inert.
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> On Nov 6, 2014, at 6:36 PM, James Craig <*jcraig@apple.com*
> <jcraig@apple.com>> wrote:
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>    @aria-modal would not do the focus management and event silencing that
>    @inert would, but a new @aria-inert attr would not be able to do that
>    either.
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>    On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:59 PM, James Nurthen <*james.nurthen@oracle.com*
>    <james.nurthen@oracle.com>> wrote:
>     In that case I see no need for aria-inert.
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>       Are there other use cases that ACTION-1347 would not address?
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>       Regards,
>       James
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>       On 11/6/2014 12:52 PM, James Craig wrote:
>          On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Dominic Mazzoni
>          *<dmazzoni@google.com>* <dmazzoni@google.com> wrote:
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>          Agreed, I'd love to see @aria-modal to go with role=dialog.
>          Obviously the html5 dialog element is even better, but not all browsers
>          support that yet.
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>          On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:40 PM, James Nurthen
>          *<james.nurthen@oracle.com>* <james.nurthen@oracle.com> wrote:
>          I see the need for a developer to state whether their dialogs
>          are modal or not.
>           We have a 1.1 action for that.
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>          ACTION-1347: Add an attribute for differentiating modal vs
>          non-modal dialogs/menus/etc. (possibly aria-modal)
>          *https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1347*
>          <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1347>
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