- From: Birkir Gunnarsson <birkir.gunnarsson@deque.com>
- Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:02:18 -0400
- To: "'James Craig'" <jcraig@apple.com>, "'Foliot, John'" <john.foliot@chase.com>
- Cc: "'Bryan Garaventa'" <bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com>, "'Cynthia Shelly'" <cyns@microsoft.com>, <public-pfwg@w3.org>
The proposed matrix will definitely spark user agents bug reports, even if such an effort were not explicitly co-ordinated as part of this effort. I think most a11y experts who do audits for clients make sure to file relevant bug reports when there are valid and straight-forward solutions out there that should be supported by the user agents. A large part of the problem lies in the vendors inability or reluctance to fix these bugs. Having the documented expected compatibility out there along with a list of whether that ability is implemented in our user agent may help provide momentum to bug fixes. Explicitly co-ordinating bug reporting efforts around this table is a nice bonus (one could see the interest in the community at CSUN, where we had probably over 40 people attend the Paciello bug bash, so many in fact that any actual working session had to be postponed more or less due to lack of space). -----Original Message----- From: James Craig [mailto:jcraig@apple.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 1:48 PM To: Foliot, John Cc: Birkir Gunnarsson; Bryan Garaventa; Cynthia Shelly; public-pfwg@w3.org Subject: Re: Is there an official place to document current role compatibility differences? On Apr 8, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Foliot, John <john.foliot@chase.com> wrote: > I think you are missing an important part of the problem James. Yes, I (we) want bugs found and fixed, but there are a plethora of developers out there that cannot simply say "upgrade to the latest" - we have to support what is out there in the real world. These are not mutually exclusive goals. Keep your list for developers, but *responsibly* list the versions tested and file bugs when you find them. > Using ARIA today is reminiscent to using CSS in 1999 - 2000: it was great and wonderful and loads of people saw the value. Do you remember the "position is everything" site that documented all the CSS bugs in Internet Explorer? It was useful for web developers, but the engineers behind it also filed bugs against Internet Explorer, and now those bugs are fixed. > The data, big data, will be free and open for all to see and use as they see fit. If you or somebody else wants to take that data and file bug reports against the softwares affected, then that is a useful use of that data. Personally, I simply don't want to limit the initiative to only tracking down bugs. I file bugs whenever I find them, including bugs against other implementations like Mozilla. Even if I can't convince you, my hope is that others involved in this community effort see the value in this goal. James
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