Re: Is there an official place to document current role compatibility differences?

It sounds great, and I'd be happy to contribute. This is something I get asked about on a regular basis, so if we could find a way to present it in a way that is easy to track and make sense of, that would be awesome.

As far as presenting tabular data, what do you think of how this page is set up?
http://quirksmode.org/dom/core/
Granted wiki formatting is different, but the table structure seems to be well organized between the mainstream browsers.

If we could do something similar, where the column headers have the various browsers, and the row headers are broken out between specific ARIA constructs, we could track compatibility fairly easily.

We would probably need separate tables for Widgets, landmark/region roles, and standalone properties, since Widgets would need to be fully interactive constructs with specific role/state markup to provide accurate testing and would need to be represented in two forms (child node navigation versus container focus with aria-activedescendant), where this wouldn't be necessary for landmark roles, or for standalone attributes like aria-label on various element types.


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Foliot, John 
  To: Bryan Garaventa ; Cynthia Shelly ; Birkir Gunnarsson ; public-pfwg@w3.org 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 3:05 PM
  Subject: RE: Is there an official place to document current role compatibility differences?


  Hi Bryan,

   

  Since CSUN, the effort has slowed, but I hope to re-start things very shortly (everyone is welcome to contribute - it's on GitHub for a reason <smile>).

   

  The final outcome will be what I characterize as "big data" - there has been no official decision on how to slice and dice that data, but with a rich data-store of results, I am confident that others will be able to extract all sorts of great conclusions and workable solutions - at least that is my hope. If you have an idea on how to present some of the results from that data-store, I encourage you to pursue that idea. However, at this time, we lack the actual data, and are in the process of establishing the framework and system to collect it.

   

  I hope you can be a contributor!

   

  JF

   

  From: Bryan Garaventa [mailto:bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com] 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 2:32 PM
  To: Cynthia Shelly; Birkir Gunnarsson; public-pfwg@w3.org
  Cc: Foliot, John
  Subject: Re: Is there an official place to document current role compatibility differences?

   

  Excellent, I'll clone the repo and check it out.

  do you know if the idea is to tabularize the results on a public page? Visiting the wiki page has no data since Feb when it was last updated.

   

  Thanks,

  Bryan

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Cynthia Shelly 

    To: Bryan Garaventa ; Birkir Gunnarsson ; public-pfwg@w3.org 

    Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 2:11 PM

    Subject: RE: Is there an official place to document current role compatibility differences?

     

    There is an effort to do just that underway, which started with a hackathon at csun.

    http://john.foliot.ca/csun-2014-hackathon/ 

     

    From: Bryan Garaventa [mailto:bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com] 
    Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 9:36 AM
    To: Birkir Gunnarsson; public-pfwg@w3.org
    Subject: Re: Is there an official place to document current role compatibility differences?

     

    Personally I'd like it if there were cells for all mainstream browsers.

     

    E.G

    http://quirksmode.org/dom/core/

     

    This would make it easy to determine which roles were supported within the various browsers, and if supported in a particular browser, where the ATs still fall short in support, making it easy for browser and AT developers to see where the shortfalls are.

     

    Much of this information lives in our heads, but it's not that helpful when we have to keep explaining this stuff from the start over and over again, and we all have unique information we could add to this I think.

     

     

     

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Birkir Gunnarsson 

      To: 'Bryan Garaventa' ; public-pfwg@w3.org 

      Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 8:55 AM

      Subject: RE: Is there an official place to document current role compatibility differences?

       

      Would such a table include both browsers as well as assistive technology applications?

       

      From: Bryan Garaventa [mailto:bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com] 
      Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:51 AM
      To: public-pfwg@w3.org
      Subject: Is there an official place to document current role compatibility differences?

       

      Is there an official place, site, wiki, or other where current role compatibility differences within AT/browser combinations can be documented?

       

      It would be useful if there were a matrix document where, when differences in support were discovered it could easily be noted within a table for this purpose, as a running support compatibility table.

       

      Does this already exist?

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