Re: ISSUE-636 ACTION-1398 Provide spec. text for aria-roledescription

On Apr 4, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com> wrote:

> I sort of like the idea of aliasing for ease of authoring.

I'm 100% opposed to aliases for these. It may make 1 thing easier, but it makes 100 more problems.

There's no good way to reconcile aliased attributes. What's the label IDREF for this element? Foo? Bar? Both?
<div aria-labelledby="foo" aria-labeledby="bar"> 

What about this usage? 
<div aria-labeledby="bar">
element.getAttribute("aria-labelledby"); // Correctly returns undefined. Forcing this to return the value of a different attribute would break the DOM.


> On the other hand, permitting illegal junk in markup is why the web is so screwed up.  

Agreed. Let's try to avoid any more screwage.


> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 23:51:30 +0200, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
> 
> The suggested spec text includes (my emphasis) " ...Provides a human readable, *localized* string name for the role of the element."  I'm not entirely sure what W3C English spelling policy is -- American only, Commonwealth only, or a mixture.
> 
> I think it's fine to have the term used in prose with either spelling… Editor's choice if the W3C style guide does not specify.
> 
> W3C policy for prose is to use US English in all its official text.
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> 
> To avoid that issue, use l7d.  Then again, maybe the official policy is that kind of acronym is not allowed either.
> 
> In spec prose, either spelling is preferable to the abbreviation for the sake of clarity.
> 
> In an attribute name or value token, my opinion is that neither spelling nor the abbreviation is acceptable due to web author confusion with spelling or clarity of meaning.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> Explaining to developers who have know a limited amount of english which
> spelling variant they have to use is a recipe for mistakes. Either alias
> the two variants, or choose something easier to get right.
> 
> cheers
> 
> Chaals
> 
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