- From: Russell <russell@blissymbolics.org>
- Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 20:39:58 -0400
- To: lisa.seeman@zoho.com
- Cc: Mats L <m.lundalv@gmail.com>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, public-personalization-tf <public-personalization-tf@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <2c592027-9eb5-fed7-56aa-8c6ec41d2a9e@blissymbolics.org>
Hi Lisa, Sorry for the delay with this. I hope it is not too urgent. It will eventually be fine but there is some discussion going on that will take a few more days. The content needs to be updated in the rules document although not in the most important areas of symbol construction. Best regards, Russell On 2020-05-07 11:47 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote: > Russel, can we store a copy of > http://www.blissymbolics.org/images/bliss-rules.pdf on our github? > We may need to make some changes for accessibility > > All the best > > Lisa Seeman > > LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter > <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> > > > > > ---- On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:59:56 +0300 *Russell > <russell@blissymbolics.org <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org>>* wrote ---- > > Hi, > > Yes, Mats is correct here. You can definitely use the numbers. The > only question is whether attribution needs to be made. > > I am just going through the patent policy document and will be > able to give you a definitive answer very soon. > > Russell > > On 2019-08-22 11:54 a.m., Mats L wrote: > > > Hi Lisa, > > I hope Russell can give you a quick and proper reply to your > questions, but my guess would be that his "no" answer was to > your question to the numbers being copyright restricted, > rather than to whether someone could use your specification > with them for "for profit" products. So probably a bit of > confusion there. > > If you stick to the CC-BY-SA license for the Blissymbolics > lexicon resources as a whole it does not restrict usage of any > kind as long as the same freedoms and restrictions are > respected for derivative resources (free use + BY=attribution, > and SA=Share Alike). I.e. you can not turn or directly bundle > the resource into proprietary products. > > Just for my understanding: > I haven't looked further at how you plan to use the numbering. > The numbers in ID numbers in themselves would be meaningless, > so I suppose you intend to use them with some kind of > reference to the concept gloss words and definitions. Is that > right? If so, how will this reference be done? Ideally such a > reference should also include the so called "Derivation" for > each Bliss concept, as the gloss words in themselves will > quite often not be unambiguous. > > Cheers, > Mats > > > Den tors 22 aug. 2019 kl 17:19 skrev lisa.seeman > <lisa.seeman@zoho.com <mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>>: > > Hi Russell > What time frame do you think it will take to get a > decisions if we can use the BCI *numbers* in the > specification in keeping with the w3c patent policy at > https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy > > We would need the licence to be in a stable url to be able > to use it in our specification. > > All the best > > Lisa Seeman > > LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter > <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> > > > > > ---- On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 19:19:32 +0300 *Russell > <russell@blissymbolics.org > <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org>>* wrote ---- > > Hi Lisa, > > Well, that is a question that has never been asked > before! My initial reaction would be "no" but let me > run it by the board just in case. > > Russell > > On 2019-08-20 7:03 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote: > > > Hi Russell > > Thanks for getting back to us so quickly. > > We are just talking about using the BCI reference > number. Not the actual symbols. > We need people to be able to use the specification > for profit applications without paying royalties. > > Are the BCI numbers subject to copywrite and if so > can people make a "for profit" product that uses > them (such as a web page) royalty free? > > All the best > > Lisa Seeman > > LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, > Twitter <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> > > > > > ---- On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:42:27 +0300 *Russell > <russell@blissymbolics.org> > <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org>* wrote ---- > > Hi Lisa, > > The licensing information can be found at: > > http://blissymbolics.org/index.php/licensing > > If you have any further questions about it, I > am currently the person to talk to. > Attribution would be the only requirement, I > think. > > For ISO codes, there is an older ISO 8859 > encoding but it is no longer used or kept up > to date. A proposal for a Unicode encoding is > in a very advanced stage and hopefully that > will become formalized very soon. There are > some technical issues with how indicators are > overlaid on symbols that is holding things up > a bit but I am optimistic that this obstacle > will be overcome very soon. However, the new > Unicode encoding will consist of > Bliss-characters - ie the building blocks of > the language - and thus not contain every > Bliss-word but only those words that are also > Bliss-characters. So for a numbering system > that refers to all Bliss-words, the BCI-AV > numbers are the ones to use. It is by far the > most widely used indexing. As far as other > possible ISO standards such as 7001 or 7010 > but for complete pictographic/ideographic > languages, I'm not even aware of a standard > let alone Bliss being part of it. > > Russell > > > On 2019-08-19 11:06 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote: > > > Hi Russell! > > We are currently hoping to use BCI numbers > as references options in our > specification. See #symbol-explanation > <https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/#symbol-explanation> > Is there any copy-write involved? What > licence would that be under and is there a > web link to it? > > Also do you know if any symbol sets have > ISO codes? > > All the best > > Lisa Seeman > > LinkedIn > <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, > Twitter <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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