Re: copy-write question

Russel, can we store a copy of http://www.blissymbolics.org/images/bliss-rules.pdf on our github?
We may need to make some changes for accessibility

All the best

Lisa Seeman

http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa





---- On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:59:56 +0300 Russell <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org> wrote ----


Hi,
 
 Yes, Mats is correct here. You can definitely use the numbers. The
    only question is whether attribution needs to be made. 
 
 I am just going through the patent policy document and will be able
    to give you a definitive answer very soon.
 
 Russell
 
 On 2019-08-22 11:54 a.m., Mats L wrote:





Hi Lisa,



I hope Russell can give you a quick and proper reply to
          your questions, but my guess would be that his "no" answer was
          to your question to the numbers being copyright restricted,
          rather than to whether someone could use your specification
          with them for "for profit" products. So probably a bit of
          confusion there.



If you stick to the CC-BY-SA license for the Blissymbolics
          lexicon resources as a whole it does not restrict usage of any
          kind as long as the same freedoms and restrictions are
          respected for derivative resources (free use + BY=attribution,
          and SA=Share Alike). I.e. you can not turn or directly bundle
          the resource into proprietary products. 



Just for my understanding:

I haven't looked further at how you plan to use the
          numbering. The numbers in ID numbers in themselves would be
          meaningless, so I suppose you intend to use them with some
          kind of reference to the concept gloss words and definitions.
          Is that right? If so, how will this reference be done? Ideally
          such a reference should also include the so called
          "Derivation" for each Bliss concept, as the gloss words in
          themselves will quite often not be unambiguous. 



Cheers,

Mats











Den tors 22 aug. 2019 kl 17:19
          skrev lisa.seeman <mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>:

Hi Russell

What time frame do you think it will take to get
                    a decisions if we can use the BCI numbers in
                    the specification in keeping with the w3c patent
                    policy at  https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy 



We would need the licence to be in a stable url
                    to be able to use it in our specification. 


All
                    the best
 
 Lisa Seeman
 
 http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa
 
 



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                      On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 19:19:32 +0300 Russell
                        <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org> wrote ----


Hi Lisa,
 
 Well, that is a question that has never been
                        asked before! My initial reaction would be "no"
                        but let me run it by the board just in case. 
 
 Russell 
 
 On
                          2019-08-20 7:03 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote:





Hi Russell



Thanks for getting back to us so
                            quickly. 



We are just talking about using the BCI
                            reference number. Not the actual symbols.

We need people to be able to use the
                            specification for profit applications
                            without paying royalties.



Are the BCI numbers subject to copywrite
                            and if so can people make a "for profit"
                            product that uses them (such as a web page)
                            royalty free?


All the best
 
 Lisa Seeman
 
 http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa
 
 



---- On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:42:27 +0300 Russell mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org wrote ----


Hi Lisa,
 
 The licensing information can be found
                                at:
 
 http://blissymbolics.org/index.php/licensing
 
 If you have any further questions about
                                it, I am currently the person to talk
                                to. Attribution would be the only
                                requirement, I think.
 
 For ISO codes, there is an older ISO
                                8859 encoding but it is no longer used
                                or kept up to date. A proposal for a
                                Unicode encoding is in a very advanced
                                stage and hopefully that will become
                                formalized very soon. There are some
                                technical issues with how indicators are
                                overlaid on symbols that is holding
                                things up a bit but I am optimistic that
                                this obstacle will be overcome very
                                soon. However, the new Unicode encoding
                                will consist of Bliss-characters - ie
                                the building blocks of the language -
                                and thus not contain every Bliss-word
                                but only those words that are also
                                Bliss-characters. So for a numbering
                                system that refers to all Bliss-words,
                                the BCI-AV numbers are the ones to use.
                                It is by far the most widely used
                                indexing. As far as other possible ISO
                                standards such as 7001 or 7010 but for
                                complete pictographic/ideographic
                                languages, I'm not even aware of a
                                standard let alone Bliss being part of
                                it.
 
 Russell
 
 
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                                  2019-08-19 11:06 a.m., lisa.seeman
                                  wrote:





Hi
                                          Russell!



We are currently hoping to use
                                    BCI numbers as references options in
                                    our specification. See  https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/#symbol-explanation

Is there any copy-write involved?
                                    What licence would that be under and
                                    is there a web link to it?



Also
                                    do you know if any symbol sets have
                                    ISO codes?



All
                                    the best
 
 Lisa Seeman
 
 http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa

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