- From: lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>
- Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 18:47:08 +0300
- To: "Russell" <russell@blissymbolics.org>
- Cc: "Mats L" <m.lundalv@gmail.com>, "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>, "public-personalization-tf" <public-personalization-tf@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <171efcfd8b9.e86ce7bc346416.1769371325879802883@zoho.com>
Russel, can we store a copy of http://www.blissymbolics.org/images/bliss-rules.pdf on our github? We may need to make some changes for accessibility All the best Lisa Seeman http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa ---- On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:59:56 +0300 Russell <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org> wrote ---- Hi, Yes, Mats is correct here. You can definitely use the numbers. The only question is whether attribution needs to be made. I am just going through the patent policy document and will be able to give you a definitive answer very soon. Russell On 2019-08-22 11:54 a.m., Mats L wrote: Hi Lisa, I hope Russell can give you a quick and proper reply to your questions, but my guess would be that his "no" answer was to your question to the numbers being copyright restricted, rather than to whether someone could use your specification with them for "for profit" products. So probably a bit of confusion there. If you stick to the CC-BY-SA license for the Blissymbolics lexicon resources as a whole it does not restrict usage of any kind as long as the same freedoms and restrictions are respected for derivative resources (free use + BY=attribution, and SA=Share Alike). I.e. you can not turn or directly bundle the resource into proprietary products. Just for my understanding: I haven't looked further at how you plan to use the numbering. The numbers in ID numbers in themselves would be meaningless, so I suppose you intend to use them with some kind of reference to the concept gloss words and definitions. Is that right? If so, how will this reference be done? Ideally such a reference should also include the so called "Derivation" for each Bliss concept, as the gloss words in themselves will quite often not be unambiguous. Cheers, Mats Den tors 22 aug. 2019 kl 17:19 skrev lisa.seeman <mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>: Hi Russell What time frame do you think it will take to get a decisions if we can use the BCI numbers in the specification in keeping with the w3c patent policy at https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy We would need the licence to be in a stable url to be able to use it in our specification. All the best Lisa Seeman http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa ---- On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 19:19:32 +0300 Russell <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org> wrote ---- Hi Lisa, Well, that is a question that has never been asked before! My initial reaction would be "no" but let me run it by the board just in case. Russell On 2019-08-20 7:03 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote: Hi Russell Thanks for getting back to us so quickly. We are just talking about using the BCI reference number. Not the actual symbols. We need people to be able to use the specification for profit applications without paying royalties. Are the BCI numbers subject to copywrite and if so can people make a "for profit" product that uses them (such as a web page) royalty free? All the best Lisa Seeman http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa ---- On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:42:27 +0300 Russell mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org wrote ---- Hi Lisa, The licensing information can be found at: http://blissymbolics.org/index.php/licensing If you have any further questions about it, I am currently the person to talk to. Attribution would be the only requirement, I think. For ISO codes, there is an older ISO 8859 encoding but it is no longer used or kept up to date. A proposal for a Unicode encoding is in a very advanced stage and hopefully that will become formalized very soon. There are some technical issues with how indicators are overlaid on symbols that is holding things up a bit but I am optimistic that this obstacle will be overcome very soon. However, the new Unicode encoding will consist of Bliss-characters - ie the building blocks of the language - and thus not contain every Bliss-word but only those words that are also Bliss-characters. So for a numbering system that refers to all Bliss-words, the BCI-AV numbers are the ones to use. It is by far the most widely used indexing. As far as other possible ISO standards such as 7001 or 7010 but for complete pictographic/ideographic languages, I'm not even aware of a standard let alone Bliss being part of it. Russell On 2019-08-19 11:06 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote: Hi Russell! We are currently hoping to use BCI numbers as references options in our specification. See https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/#symbol-explanation Is there any copy-write involved? What licence would that be under and is there a web link to it? Also do you know if any symbol sets have ISO codes? All the best Lisa Seeman http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa
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