- From: lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>
- Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 18:47:08 +0300
- To: "Russell" <russell@blissymbolics.org>
- Cc: "Mats L" <m.lundalv@gmail.com>, "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>, "public-personalization-tf" <public-personalization-tf@w3.org>
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Russel, can we store a copy of http://www.blissymbolics.org/images/bliss-rules.pdf on our github?
We may need to make some changes for accessibility
All the best
Lisa Seeman
http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa
---- On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:59:56 +0300 Russell <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org> wrote ----
Hi,
Yes, Mats is correct here. You can definitely use the numbers. The
only question is whether attribution needs to be made.
I am just going through the patent policy document and will be able
to give you a definitive answer very soon.
Russell
On 2019-08-22 11:54 a.m., Mats L wrote:
Hi Lisa,
I hope Russell can give you a quick and proper reply to
your questions, but my guess would be that his "no" answer was
to your question to the numbers being copyright restricted,
rather than to whether someone could use your specification
with them for "for profit" products. So probably a bit of
confusion there.
If you stick to the CC-BY-SA license for the Blissymbolics
lexicon resources as a whole it does not restrict usage of any
kind as long as the same freedoms and restrictions are
respected for derivative resources (free use + BY=attribution,
and SA=Share Alike). I.e. you can not turn or directly bundle
the resource into proprietary products.
Just for my understanding:
I haven't looked further at how you plan to use the
numbering. The numbers in ID numbers in themselves would be
meaningless, so I suppose you intend to use them with some
kind of reference to the concept gloss words and definitions.
Is that right? If so, how will this reference be done? Ideally
such a reference should also include the so called
"Derivation" for each Bliss concept, as the gloss words in
themselves will quite often not be unambiguous.
Cheers,
Mats
Den tors 22 aug. 2019 kl 17:19
skrev lisa.seeman <mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>:
Hi Russell
What time frame do you think it will take to get
a decisions if we can use the BCI numbers in
the specification in keeping with the w3c patent
policy at https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy
We would need the licence to be in a stable url
to be able to use it in our specification.
All
the best
Lisa Seeman
http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 19:19:32 +0300 Russell
<mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org> wrote ----
Hi Lisa,
Well, that is a question that has never been
asked before! My initial reaction would be "no"
but let me run it by the board just in case.
Russell
On
2019-08-20 7:03 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote:
Hi Russell
Thanks for getting back to us so
quickly.
We are just talking about using the BCI
reference number. Not the actual symbols.
We need people to be able to use the
specification for profit applications
without paying royalties.
Are the BCI numbers subject to copywrite
and if so can people make a "for profit"
product that uses them (such as a web page)
royalty free?
All the best
Lisa Seeman
http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa
---- On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:42:27 +0300 Russell mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org wrote ----
Hi Lisa,
The licensing information can be found
at:
http://blissymbolics.org/index.php/licensing
If you have any further questions about
it, I am currently the person to talk
to. Attribution would be the only
requirement, I think.
For ISO codes, there is an older ISO
8859 encoding but it is no longer used
or kept up to date. A proposal for a
Unicode encoding is in a very advanced
stage and hopefully that will become
formalized very soon. There are some
technical issues with how indicators are
overlaid on symbols that is holding
things up a bit but I am optimistic that
this obstacle will be overcome very
soon. However, the new Unicode encoding
will consist of Bliss-characters - ie
the building blocks of the language -
and thus not contain every Bliss-word
but only those words that are also
Bliss-characters. So for a numbering
system that refers to all Bliss-words,
the BCI-AV numbers are the ones to use.
It is by far the most widely used
indexing. As far as other possible ISO
standards such as 7001 or 7010 but for
complete pictographic/ideographic
languages, I'm not even aware of a
standard let alone Bliss being part of
it.
Russell
On
2019-08-19 11:06 a.m., lisa.seeman
wrote:
Hi
Russell!
We are currently hoping to use
BCI numbers as references options in
our specification. See https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/#symbol-explanation
Is there any copy-write involved?
What licence would that be under and
is there a web link to it?
Also
do you know if any symbol sets have
ISO codes?
All
the best
Lisa Seeman
http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/, https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa
Received on Thursday, 7 May 2020 15:48:01 UTC