Re: copy-write question

Hi Lisa,

I hope Russell can give you a quick and proper reply to your questions, but
my guess would be that his "no" answer was to your question to the numbers
being copyright restricted, rather than to whether someone could use your
specification with them for "for profit" products. So probably a bit of
confusion there.

If you stick to the CC-BY-SA license for the Blissymbolics lexicon
resources as a whole it does not restrict usage of any kind as long as the
same freedoms and restrictions are respected for derivative resources (free
use + BY=attribution, and SA=Share Alike). I.e. you can not turn or
directly bundle the resource into proprietary products.

Just for my understanding:
I haven't looked further at how you plan to use the numbering. The numbers
in ID numbers in themselves would be meaningless, so I suppose you intend
to use them with some kind of reference to the concept gloss words and
definitions. Is that right? If so, how will this reference be done? Ideally
such a reference should also include the so called "Derivation" for each
Bliss concept, as the gloss words in themselves will quite often not be
unambiguous.

Cheers,
Mats


Den tors 22 aug. 2019 kl 17:19 skrev lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>:

> Hi Russell
> What time frame do you think it will take to get a decisions if we can use
> the BCI *numbers* in the specification in keeping with the w3c patent
> policy at  https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy
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> We would need the licence to be in a stable url to be able to use it in
> our specification.
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> All the best
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> Lisa Seeman
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> ---- On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 19:19:32 +0300 *Russell
> <russell@blissymbolics.org <russell@blissymbolics.org>>* wrote ----
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> Hi Lisa,
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> Well, that is a question that has never been asked before! My initial
> reaction would be "no" but let me run it by the board just in case.
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> Russell
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> On 2019-08-20 7:03 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote:
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> Hi Russell
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> Thanks for getting back to us so quickly.
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> We are just talking about using the BCI reference number. Not the actual
> symbols.
> We need people to be able to use the specification for profit applications
> without paying royalties.
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> Are the BCI numbers subject to copywrite and if so can people make a "for
> profit" product that uses them (such as a web page) royalty free?
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> All the best
>
> Lisa Seeman
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> LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter
> <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
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> ---- On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:42:27 +0300 *Russell
> <russell@blissymbolics.org> <russell@blissymbolics.org>* wrote ----
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> Hi Lisa,
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> The licensing information can be found at:
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> http://blissymbolics.org/index.php/licensing
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> If you have any further questions about it, I am currently the person to
> talk to. Attribution would be the only requirement, I think.
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> For ISO codes, there is an older ISO 8859 encoding but it is no longer
> used or kept up to date. A proposal for a Unicode encoding is in a very
> advanced stage and hopefully that will become formalized very soon. There
> are some technical issues with how indicators are overlaid on symbols that
> is holding things up a bit but I am optimistic that this obstacle will be
> overcome very soon. However, the new Unicode encoding will consist of
> Bliss-characters - ie the building blocks of the language - and thus not
> contain every Bliss-word but only those words that are also
> Bliss-characters. So for a numbering system that refers to all Bliss-words,
> the BCI-AV numbers are the ones to use. It is by far the most widely used
> indexing. As far as other possible ISO standards such as 7001 or 7010 but
> for complete pictographic/ideographic languages, I'm not even aware of a
> standard let alone Bliss being part of it.
>
> Russell
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> On 2019-08-19 11:06 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote:
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> Hi Russell!
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> We are currently hoping to use BCI numbers as references options in our
> specification. See  #symbol-explanation
> <https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/#symbol-explanation>
> Is there any copy-write involved? What licence would that be under and is
> there a web link to it?
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> Also do you know if any symbol sets have ISO codes?
>
> All the best
>
> Lisa Seeman
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> LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter
> <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
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