- From: Rinke Hoekstra <hoekstra@uva.nl>
- Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 14:22:16 +0000
- To: "Deborah L. McGuinness" <dlm@ksl.stanford.edu>
- Cc: OWL Working Group WG <public-owl-wg@w3.org>
Thanks for your clarification. Indeed I conflated the overview and the
guide, sorry for any confusion.
-Rinke
On 8 dec 2007, at 09:32, Deborah L. McGuinness wrote:
> just so we are clear, my extension of Evan's suggestion was for the
> Overview document.
> Note that that is different from the Guide or Reference or the other
> documents.
> It is a shortish introduction. from the overview, "This OWL
> Overview <http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-features/> gives a simple
> introduction to OWL by providing a language feature listing with
> very brief feature descriptions; "
> so the point below that puts a link for the Guide Overview is wrong.
> The Overview link for enumeratedClass/ oneof just goes to the text
> at:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#oneOf
>
> and then it provides a link into the guide.
>
> The issue of combining reference with guide should be separated from
> evan's proposal and my expansion of an outline for
> a new overview that attempts to take some of the owl 1.0 overview
> (eliminating species discussion) with the 1.1 overview diff info.
>
> thanks,
> Deborah
>
> Rinke Hoekstra wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> The discussion about UFD's had me look back to when I was first
>> reading the OWL 1.0 documents a few years ago. What was really
>> confusing to me, was that both the Guide and the Reference have
>> almost identical coverage of the spec, but from a differing
>> perspective. Of course, the guide adds a story line (the wines),
>> and the reference is just an iteration of all language elements.
>> However, for both, the level of detail is almost identical. Take
>> for instance the sections on enumerated classes and disjointness:
>>
>> OWL 1.0 Guide/Overview
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-guide-20040210/#EnumeratedClasses
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-guide-20040210/#DisjointClasses
>>
>> OWL 1.0 Reference
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-ref-20040210/#EnumeratedClass
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-ref-20040210/#disjointWith-def
>>
>> FWIW, I think the duplication was really confusing ("where did I
>> read this?"), and we should try to avoid this for 1.1 so I really
>> vote for a single 'document' that combines the two (and the new owl
>> 1.1 overview). Nonetheless the difference in the way in which the
>> language is presented to the reader *is* probably relevant,
>> something we could overcome by maintaining two orthogonal tables of
>> contents.
>>
>> Is there a particular reason why these should be separate real
>> (i.e. monolithic, linear) documents, and not closely interlinked
>> 'perspectives' on the same content?
>>
>> -Rinke
>>
>>
>> On 7 dec 2007, at 15:41, Deborah L. McGuinness wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I liked Evan Wallace's suggestion yesterday for an Overview that
>>> was something in between the OWL 1.0 Overview and the OWL 1.1
>>> member submission overview (without any species emphasis).
>>> I took a stab at operationalizing that a bit with a proposed
>>> outline. I had asked some people to a short lunch meeting to
>>> discuss this suggestion. Since we did not get to discuss this
>>> proposal (as we discussed some needs and bijan's proposal to
>>> combine the overview and guide) so i thought i would send it out
>>> to the working group for comments.
>>>
>>> (to the people i sent this to prior to our lunch meeting, this is
>>> the same but with an intro to kr section aimed to address the
>>> concern that one needs some kr background to read the current 1.0
>>> overview. )
>>>
>>> Deborah
>>>
>>> =================================
>>>
>>>
>>> Evan’s Proposal: An introductory document between OWL 1.1 Overview
>>> and OWL Overview from Rec. (without the species of OWL emphasis)
>>>
>>>
>>> Uli’s proposal – annotate the previous document with pointers to
>>> material
>>>
>>>
>>> OWL 1.0 Original Outline http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-features/
>>>
>>> 1. Introduction
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s1>
>>> 1. Document Roadmap
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s1.1>
>>> 2. Why OWL?
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s1.2>
>>> 3. The three sublanguages of OWL
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s1.3>
>>> 4. The structure of this document
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s1.4>
>>> 2. Language Synopsis
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s2>
>>> 1. OWL Lite Synopsis
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s2.1>
>>> 2. OWL DL and OWL Full Synopsis
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s2.2>
>>> 3. Language Description of OWL Lite
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3>
>>> 1. OWL Lite RDF Schema Features
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.1>
>>> 2. OWL Lite Equality and Inequality
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.2>
>>> 3. OWL Lite Property Characteristics
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.3>
>>> 4. OWL Lite Property Restrictions
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.4>
>>> 5. OWL Lite Restricted Cardinality
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.5>
>>> 6. OWL Lite Class Intersection
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.6>
>>> 7. OWL Datatypes
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.7>
>>> 8. OWL Lite Header Information
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.8>
>>> 9. OWL Lite Annotation Properties
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.9>
>>> 10. OWL Lite Versioning
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/
>>> #s3.10>
>>> 4. Incremental Language Description of OWL DL and OWL Full
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s4>
>>> 5. Summary <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s5>
>>>
>>> *OWL 1.1 Member Submission Outline http://www.w3.org/Submission/owl11-overview/*
>>>
>>> · Overview <http://www.w3.org/Submission/owl11-overview/#1>
>>>
>>> · 2 Features <http://www.w3.org/Submission/owl11-overview/#2>
>>>
>>> * 2.1 Syntactic Sugar <http://www.w3.org/Submission/owl11-overview/#2.1
>>> >
>>> * 2.2 /SROIQ/ <http://www.w3.org/Submission/owl11-overview/#2.2>
>>> * 2.3 Datatypes <http://www.w3.org/Submission/owl11-overview/#2.2>
>>> * 2.4 Metamodeling <http://www.w3.org/Submission/owl11-overview/#2.2
>>> >
>>>
>>> · References <http://www.w3.org/Submission/owl11-overview/#references
>>> >
>>>
>>> *Potential New Overview*
>>>
>>> 1 Introduction <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s1
>>> >
>>>
>>> 1. Document Roadmap
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s1.1>
>>> 2. Intro to KR (as needed to read this doc)
>>> 3. Why OWL?
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s1.2>
>>> 4. New section – OWL 1.1 motivations and addition highlights
>>> (much taken from owl 1.1 overview)
>>> 5. The structure of this document
>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s1.4>
>>>
>>> 2. Language Synopsis <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s2
>>> > (note – no organization by species)
>>>
>>> 3. Language Description
>>>
>>> a. OWL RDF Schema Features <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.1
>>> >
>>>
>>> b. OWL Equality and Inequality <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.2
>>> >
>>>
>>> c. OWL Property Characteristics <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.3
>>> > (include new extensions local reflexivity, reflexive,
>>> irreflexive, symmetric, and antisymmetric for non-complex)
>>>
>>> d. OWL Property Restrictions <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.4
>>> > (include disjoint properties maybe property chain inclusions here)
>>>
>>> e. OWL Cardinality <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.5
>>> > (remove lite limitations, include qualified cardinality here)
>>>
>>> f. hasValue, one of (used to be in owl dl section)
>>>
>>> g. OWL Boolean operators (old intersection for lite, dl Booleans)
>>>
>>> h. OWL Datatypes <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.7
>>> > (include new owl 1.1 info here)
>>>
>>> i. OWL Header Information <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.8
>>> >
>>>
>>> j. OWL Annotation Properties <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.9
>>> >
>>>
>>> k. OWL Versioning <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s3.10
>>> >
>>>
>>> l. Syntactic sugar
>>>
>>> m. Metamodeling
>>>
>>> 4. Summary <http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-owl-features-20040210/#s5>
>>>
>>> Just a note – the 1.0 overview says “This OWL Overview <http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-features/
>>> > gives a simple introduction to OWL by providing a language
>>> feature listing with very brief feature descriptions;”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>> Drs. Rinke Hoekstra
>>
>> Email: hoekstra@uva.nl Skype: rinkehoekstra
>> Phone: +31-20-5253499 Fax: +31-20-5253495
>> Web: http://www.leibnizcenter.org/users/rinke
>>
>> Leibniz Center for Law, Faculty of Law
>> University of Amsterdam, PO Box 1030
>> 1000 BA Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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>>
>>
>>
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Email: hoekstra@uva.nl Skype: rinkehoekstra
Phone: +31-20-5253499 Fax: +31-20-5253495
Web: http://www.leibnizcenter.org/users/rinke
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