- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 09:37:39 +0100
- To: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>
- CC: Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>, public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <53198553.7060500@w3.org>
Am 06.03.14 21:53, schrieb Robert Sanderson: > > Hi Felix, > > Thanks for this! Yes, a section on agents involved in the use cases > would be very helpful. I'll add that in the next iteration. Great > suggestion! Thanks for the nice feedback, Robert! One further suggestion about such a section: one may add agents like "automatic annotation creators", since these then neeed different types of annotations, e.g. "what automatic tool was used". Just a suggestion. > > I guess, given that internationalization and accessibility are in > scope for provision via annotation, then additional style information > would also be in scope. In the model it's relatively easy to > associate a CSS resource with some other resource, but there would > still need to be some way to assign the particular class to an element > or other selector. Definitely warrants some investigation :) Indeed :) - Felix > > Rob > > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org > <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>> wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > sorry for the late follow-up on this. I have to add just one > question to this: in the use case document or a different > location, is there a description of actors? I was thinking of e.g. > > > 1) content architect: providing annotations for several > (potentially thousands of documents) > 2) a content author: using the templates made by content > architects and adapting them to her needs > 3) a content quality evaluator: in selected pieces of content > making exceptions to 1) and 2) > > I am mentioning this because I see styling as a kind of > annotation, and in CSS there are direct technical means that > reflect above actors: > > 1) CSS stylesheets > 2) Precedence between css stylesheets; the content author will add > a stylsheet that is linked in a subsequent position compared to 1) > and hence has higher precedence > 3) The HTML "style" attribute > > So to serve such roles one needs to define rules for precedence > (between 1) and 2)) and inheritance (some style information > inherits through the whole tree, like color; others doesn't, like > setting of borders) and overriding (the "style" attribute > overrides the stylesheet information). > > With the comparison to style I also tried to emphasize that above > actors may not be specific to localization etc., but relevant for > annotation in general. What do you think? > > Thanks for your feedback in advance, > > Felix > > Am 25.02.14 16:52, schrieb Robert Sanderson: >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> Thanks for the links to the documents and paper, very interesting >> work! >> >> I would propose to expand the scope of section 2.5 to >> "Accessibility and Internationalization Use Cases", and add 2.5.3 >> with your P10 example from the paper. Would that be sufficient, >> or do you have time to write up a more detailed use case for the >> document? >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie >> <mailto:dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>> wrote: >> >> Hi Rob, all, >> You may want to consider work on annotation in the >> Internationalization Activity, in particular the work of the >> MLW-LT WG which recently completed the ITS2.0 recommendation: >> http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/ >> >> There is a set of IS2.0 use cases based on current >> implementations available at: >> https://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/Use_cases_-_high_level_summary >> and an older set of requirements at: >> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-its2req-20120524/ >> >> ITS2.0 addresses specific use cases related to the >> internationalisation and localisation of HTML5 and XML >> content. It therefore specifically addresses the annotation >> of the _textual_ content of such content, rather than >> annotating non-text nodes of the resulting DOM tree. However, >> to handle the many practical aspects, especially in relation >> to minimising the impact of annotation on the document, ITS >> possess a sophisitcated set of annotation patterns to >> overcome some of the limitation of third party annotations of >> DOM parsable documents, including a mapping to standoff >> meta-data in RDF. These patterns are described a bit more >> explicitly (compared to in the Recommendation) in a recent >> paper available at: >> https://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/images/4/4a/Locfoc13-paper36-cr.pdf >> >> I'd be very interest in hearing thoughts from the group on >> this work and its relation to the annotation use case draft. >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >> >> >> On 24/02/2014 22:52, Robert Sanderson wrote: >> >> >> Dear all, >> >> The W3C Digital Publishing Interest Group is going to >> publish a working draft of a Note on Annotation use cases >> in the near future. I have put a pre-working draft >> (whatever that means :) ) of the text up at: >> >> http://www.openannotation.org/usecases.html >> >> Any comments, corrections, additions, etc are very welcome! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rob >> >> P.S. Bob, unfortunately data annotation directly isn't in >> scope of the IG work, but I've included it under the >> embedded resource use case to try and promote the discussion. >> >> >> >> > >
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