"cite" and 'author of a quote'

Dear Ivan and Doug,
I believe the previous discussion 'Annotation Serializations' is becoming a
little dense and hard to follow.

I am isolating here one of the topic of a previous email (
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-openannotation/2014Jan/0049.html)
as I am trying to understand better:

Ivan said:
>> I looked at your example, and, for the purpose of the discussion, I
>> did re-cast it into RDFa Lite. I *think* it is what you meant but
>> probably not exactly; I did remove the internal properties for Bush
>> because you annotate <http://example.com/sourcedoc.html> and not the
>> snippet and, I must admit, I was not sure how that 'cite' would
>> translate into OA (I am not sure it can, it may need some additional
>> properties).

Doug said:
> Yeah, actually, unless I'm missing something, I think there should be
some
> way in the OA model to indicate the author(s) of a quote. This would be
> most useful when the annotation is being viewed as a document itself,
> or when the source document is not actually available on the Web
> (behind a paywall, in an ebook or paper book, spoken during a
non-recorded
> or time-delayed presentation, or what have you), but the annotator still
> wants to attribute it as much as possible (think of tweets about
conference
> presentations which contain quotes and a link to the speaker's twitter
id).


Could you help me understanding a little better what you are referring to
for 'cite' and author of a quote and what you would like to accomplish with
OA?

If I look at the <note> first snippet in the wiki
http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/wiki/Serializations my
understanding is that Doug is annotating a quote in the document
http://example.com/sourcedoc.html . Therefore the target is a particular
snippet of that page and the author of that snippet is 'Vannevar Bush'.

If that is the case, the JSON-LD in the wiki
"hasTarget": "http://example.com/sourcedoc.html"
is not accurate as it referring to the whole document.
It should be

 "hasTarget": {
        "@type" : "SpecificResource",
       "hasSource": "http://example.com/sourcedoc.html"
        "hasSelector" : {
            .. the quote ..
        }
    }


Doug, do you want to keep track of the fact that the annotation target is
authored by Bush? Or annotating the quote in the target with an annotation
that says that Bush is the author?

Paolo


-- 
Dr. Paolo Ciccarese
http://www.paolociccarese.info/
Biomedical Informatics Research & Development
Instructor of Neurology at Harvard Medical School
Assistant in Neuroscience at Mass General Hospital
Member of the MGH Biomedical Informatics Core

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