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Re: Questionn on annotation a text section

From: Reto Bachmann-Gmür <reto@apache.org>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:32:57 -0700
Message-ID: <CALvhUEU5xpkb-TGnUgsEukDVn041g8yPJqmgGjsCV-f7V6HWLg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>, Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>, agerber@itee.uq.edu.au
Cc: public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
Thanks a lot for all your replies. It's good to see that even if the
wording of the spec isn't very clear the interpretations of the community
seem to be highly consistent :)

Cheers,
Reto

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Reto,
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Reto Bachmann-Gmür <reto@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > I'm struggling to understand how to annotate a specific text section
> > identified by offset.
> >
> > I see the example at
> > http://www.openannotation.org/spec/extension/#SelectorOffset
> > oa:hasTarget points to the thing being annotated. Apart that I thing
> that a
> > name like oa:annoates would be more easy to understand I think I'm
> getting
> > this. The subject is the annotation and I can add hasSemanticTag
> properties
> > to it.
>
> Regarding the naming, we felt that annotates would be confusing as
> really it's the body that annotates the target, not the annotation.
> The annotation is essentially the reification of the annotates
> relationship so that we can express further information about it.
>
> For SpecificResource versus DocumentSection (or similar) remember that
> there are other Specifiers as well as Selector.  It could be the
> entire representation of a resource, just at a particular point in
> time (State) or a particular format (State again, to be discussed as
> to the modeling!). Likewise it could be the entire resource but styled
> in a certain way for the presentation.
>
>
> > understandable. For hasSoure I would guess this points to the document
> the
> > subject is a section of but I read in the core spec that it is a
> > letationship between the oa:SpeficResource and a (why does it says
> "the"?)
> > resource that is a more specific reresentation of the subject. In this
> case
> > so I'm looking for a more specific representation of the document
> section.
> > What is a more specific representation? To me character 97 through 102
> of a
> > specific document is already quite specific. Confused.
>
> The wording is:
> "The relationship between a oa:SpecificResource and the resource that
> it [the SpecificResource] is a more specific representation of."
> []s added
>
> Which I admit is not as clear as it could be!  Your guess is actually
> correct, it's the resource which the document segment is part of.
>
> To unpack it: hasSource is the relationship between a
> SpecificResource, and another resource that SpecificResource
> identifies part of (for the selector only case).  Given the State and
> Style options, the wording is a little convoluted, but could certainly
> be improved or at least expanded with an example.
>
> > Maybe somebody could jsut tell me, how to express
> > the character range from 97 to 102 of the resource
> > <http://example.org/2012/07/18/news> are related to
> > <http://dbpedia.org/page/Eiffel_Tower>
>
> Dbpedia "page" or "resource"?
>
> Assuming you mean a semantic tag:
>
> <_:Anno1> a oax:Tag ;
>   oa:hasSemanticTag <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Eiffel_Tower> ;
>   oa:hasTarget <_:SpecificResource1> .
>
> <_:SpecificResource1> a oa:SpecificResource ;
>   oa:hasSource <http://example.org/2012/07/18/news> ;
>   oa:hasSelector <_:Selector1> .
>
> <_:Selector1> a oax:TextOffsetSelector ;
>   oax:offset 97 ;
>   oax:range 5 .
>
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Rob
>
Received on Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:33:23 UTC

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