Re: OntoLex minutes 9/Apr/18

Hi all,

Just a minor clarification for a line in the minutes from today:

'SuperEntry' is a better name than 'LexicalEntry' -->  'SuperEntry' is a
better name than 'DictionaryEntry'


Cheers,

Julia


2018-04-09 14:38 GMT+02:00 John McCrae <john.mccrae@insight-centre.org>:

> Hi all,
>
> The minutes from today are below:
>
> Present: Julia, Francesca, Ilan, John
>
> https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Lexicography
> Issues raised by Sander:
> JBG: Use of two properties describesEntry and describesSense, but
> dictionaries describe much more than entries and senses.
> JBG: Single describes property with multiple range?
> JBG:Is this sufficient to capture the structure of a dictionary
> JM: Probably sufficent, but some risk of not capturing all dictionaries
> One property with multiple ranges may be more flexible than multiple
> properties
> Technical distinction between ranges of 'describes' but is there a
> semantic distinction?
> JM: probably technically okay to have a single property
> JBG: SuperEntry of subEntry?
> JM: I think this is an error in my minutes. It should be SuperEntry
> FF: We aren't representing a digital version of a print dictionary, so is
> dictionary entry the right name?
> JBG: if a dictionary entry only has senses for nouns ontolex core is
> sufficient. however the dictionary has senses for multiple pos I must use
> DictionaryEntry. The use of dictionary entry implies the existence of a
> paper dictionary.
> JM: super entry is like an 'entry group' (as previously proposed) so
> perhaps SuperEntry is a better name
> FF: shows that lexical entries do not occur by themselves
> IK: what is meant by typographical? what is the purpose of lexicography
> module?
> aims is to represent linguistic information (JM: broadly true)
> JBG: yeah, some things are not linguistic, but somehow logical, e.g.,
> sense orderings
> JBG: In next telco we should repeat the goal of the module
>
> Key Points:
> 'describe' as a property with multiple ranges is acceptable
> 'SuperEntry' is a better name than 'LexicalEntry'
> goal of OntoLex is not same as TEI
>
> IK: how this relates to dictionaries. What about senses, when many
> lexicographers (e.g., Kilgariff) reject them?
> JBG: we provide enough tools to represent dictionaries
> JM: OntoLex is quite opinionated as to what 'entries' and 'senses' mean,
> so we need to bridge this with other representations
> IK: Looking at future goals is important too. 'SuperEntry' is more
> forward-looking
>
> Next Telco:
> 23rd is difficult for some so postpone to 30 Apr, 13:00 CEST.
>
> Regards,
> John
>



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Julia Bosque Gil
PhD Student
Ontology Engineering Group <http://www.oeg-upm.net/>
Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
Universidad Politécnica de Madrid