OntoLex minutes 9/Apr/18

Hi all,

The minutes from today are below:

Present: Julia, Francesca, Ilan, John

https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Lexicography
Issues raised by Sander:
JBG: Use of two properties describesEntry and describesSense, but
dictionaries describe much more than entries and senses.
JBG: Single describes property with multiple range?
JBG:Is this sufficient to capture the structure of a dictionary
JM: Probably sufficent, but some risk of not capturing all dictionaries
One property with multiple ranges may be more flexible than multiple
properties
Technical distinction between ranges of 'describes' but is there a semantic
distinction?
JM: probably technically okay to have a single property
JBG: SuperEntry of subEntry?
JM: I think this is an error in my minutes. It should be SuperEntry
FF: We aren't representing a digital version of a print dictionary, so is
dictionary entry the right name?
JBG: if a dictionary entry only has senses for nouns ontolex core is
sufficient. however the dictionary has senses for multiple pos I must use
DictionaryEntry. The use of dictionary entry implies the existence of a
paper dictionary.
JM: super entry is like an 'entry group' (as previously proposed) so
perhaps SuperEntry is a better name
FF: shows that lexical entries do not occur by themselves
IK: what is meant by typographical? what is the purpose of lexicography
module?
aims is to represent linguistic information (JM: broadly true)
JBG: yeah, some things are not linguistic, but somehow logical, e.g., sense
orderings
JBG: In next telco we should repeat the goal of the module

Key Points:
'describe' as a property with multiple ranges is acceptable
'SuperEntry' is a better name than 'LexicalEntry'
goal of OntoLex is not same as TEI

IK: how this relates to dictionaries. What about senses, when many
lexicographers (e.g., Kilgariff) reject them?
JBG: we provide enough tools to represent dictionaries
JM: OntoLex is quite opinionated as to what 'entries' and 'senses' mean, so
we need to bridge this with other representations
IK: Looking at future goals is important too. 'SuperEntry' is more
forward-looking

Next Telco:
23rd is difficult for some so postpone to 30 Apr, 13:00 CEST.

Regards,
John