Re: next teleconference

Hi @all,

Could anyone add me in the Ontolex chat of skype? my login is 
diegomoussallem. I would like to attend this meeting. :)

Cheers,

Diego Moussallem


On 9/26/17 9:07 AM, Thierry Declerck wrote:
>
> Dear Jorge, Philipp, All,
>
> In the meantime, there was a change in my schedules, and I am landing 
> in Vienna at 14:30. I will thus not be able to join the telco at 
> 15:00, sorry for that.
>
> But as both John and Philipp have been attending and commenting our 
> poster at eLex (work on "lemonizing" the Ducht General Dictionary), 
> and we had there a nice small OntoLex-lemon session then, maybe they 
> can convey today at the telco what we discussed ?
>
> Many thanks!!
>
> Best
>
> Thierry
>
>
> Am 25.09.2017 um 18:56 schrieb Jorge Gracia:
>> Dear Philipp, all,
>>
>> Let me add a couple of comments to the agenda that I hope will be 
>> useful for tomorrow's discussion
>>
>> > 1) Goals of the lexicography module
>>
>> In the paper we presented at the Ontolex WS at LDK'17 we tried to 
>> motivate it [1]. In my view, the goal of the module can be summarised 
>> as follows: to complement (the core of) OntoLex and overcome its 
>> limitations when modelling lexicographic information as linked data, 
>> in a way that is agnostic of the underlying lexicographic view and 
>> minimises information loss.
>>
>>
>> > 2) Lexicography module: modelling existing dictionaries or providing
>> > a conceptual / abstract model of language and linguistic objects ?
>>
>> I think that we should cover both targets. After analysing the 
>> literature, we perceive an obvious need for reaching some agreements 
>> that allows for a better and more interoperable migration of existing 
>> dictionaries into LD. For example, Oxford has their own notion of 
>> "dictionary entry" [2] materialised in the "ogl:Entry" class while we 
>> introduced the ad-hoc "kd:dictionaryEntry" relation in the conversion 
>> of the KD global series dictionaries [3], and more people will 
>> introduce their own solutions as well to cover similar notions. Being 
>> interoperability a key issue in LD technologies, it makes a lot of 
>> sense to build a common space in which these things can be agreed and 
>> commonly defined, for which the Ontolex community is a natural forum.
>>
>> However, although the primary goal might be to model existing 
>> dictionaries, this can be done by extracting what they have in common 
>> and in a way that is decoupled from specific linguistic views. Thus, 
>> the new module should remain highly re-usable across dictionaries, as 
>> well as useful for new LD-based dictionaries built from scratch. We 
>> asume of course that many specific ingredients from specific 
>> dictionaries and views will still need ad-hoc constructs, but having 
>> a few common entities defined in the module will help to overcome the 
>> limitations that have been detected when current OntoLex is applied 
>> to lexicographic data, and can greatly benefit interoperability.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jorge
>>
>> [1] "We ground our proposal for a lexicography module on the 
>> following four points: (1) the use of OntoLex by the majority of the 
>> community to convert linguistic resources to LLD instead of to 
>> lexicalize ontologies, (2) the nature of lemon being descriptive but 
>> not prescriptive and the respect towards different lexicographic 
>> views, (3) the coming together of the lexicography and the Semantic 
>> Web communities and potential benefits that LLD may bring about to 
>> lexicography, assuming it involves no information loss, and (4) the 
>> reuse of already available mechanisms in OntoLex." (see 
>> http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-1899/OntoLex_2017_paper_5.pdf)
>>
>> [2] See http://www.lrec-conf.org/proceedings/lrec2016/pdf/523_Paper.pdf
>>
>> [3] See 
>> http://www.lrec-conf.org/proceedings/lrec2016/workshops/LREC2016Workshop-GLOBALEX_Proceedings-v2.pdf
>>
>> 2017-09-21 9:54 GMT+02:00 Philipp Cimiano 
>> <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de 
>> <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>>:
>>
>>     Dear all,
>>
>>        an email from elex, which is being really interesting.
>>
>>     I want to propose to have our next teleconference on Tuesday 26th at
>>     15:00 CEST.
>>
>>     The topics I want to discuss, raised during last telco:
>>
>>     1) Goals of the lexicography module
>>
>>     2) Lexicography module: modelling existing dictionaries or providing
>>     a conceptual / abstract model of language and linguistic objects ?
>>
>>     3) Process to follow to define the lexicography module
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>
>>     Philipp.
>>
>>
>>     --
>>     --
>>     Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano
>>     AG Semantic Computing
>>     Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
>>     Universität Bielefeld
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Jorge Gracia, PhD
>> Ontology Engineering Group
>> Artificial Intelligence Department
>> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
>> http://jogracia.url.ph/web/
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