Re: next teleconference

Dear Jorge, Philipp, All,

In the meantime, there was a change in my schedules, and I am landing in 
Vienna at 14:30. I will thus not be able to join the telco at 15:00, 
sorry for that.

But as both John and Philipp have been attending and commenting our 
poster at eLex (work on "lemonizing" the Ducht General Dictionary), and 
we had there a nice small OntoLex-lemon session then, maybe they can 
convey today at the telco what we discussed ?

Many thanks!!

Best

Thierry


Am 25.09.2017 um 18:56 schrieb Jorge Gracia:
> Dear Philipp, all,
>
> Let me add a couple of comments to the agenda that I hope will be 
> useful for tomorrow's discussion
>
> > 1) Goals of the lexicography module
>
> In the paper we presented at the Ontolex WS at LDK'17 we tried to 
> motivate it [1]. In my view, the goal of the module can be summarised 
> as follows: to complement (the core of) OntoLex and overcome its 
> limitations when modelling lexicographic information as linked data, 
> in a way that is agnostic of the underlying lexicographic view and 
> minimises information loss.
>
>
> > 2) Lexicography module: modelling existing dictionaries or providing
> > a conceptual / abstract model of language and linguistic objects ?
>
> I think that we should cover both targets. After analysing the 
> literature, we perceive an obvious need for reaching some agreements 
> that allows for a better and more interoperable migration of existing 
> dictionaries into LD. For example, Oxford has their own notion of 
> "dictionary entry" [2] materialised in the "ogl:Entry" class while we 
> introduced the ad-hoc "kd:dictionaryEntry" relation in the conversion 
> of the KD global series dictionaries [3], and more people will 
> introduce their own solutions as well to cover similar notions. Being 
> interoperability a key issue in LD technologies, it makes a lot of 
> sense to build a common space in which these things can be agreed and 
> commonly defined, for which the Ontolex community is a natural forum.
>
> However, although the primary goal might be to model existing 
> dictionaries, this can be done by extracting what they have in common 
> and in a way that is decoupled from specific linguistic views. Thus, 
> the new module should remain highly re-usable across dictionaries, as 
> well as useful for new LD-based dictionaries built from scratch. We 
> asume of course that many specific ingredients from specific 
> dictionaries and views will still need ad-hoc constructs, but having a 
> few common entities defined in the module will help to overcome the 
> limitations that have been detected when current OntoLex is applied to 
> lexicographic data, and can greatly benefit interoperability.
>
> Best regards,
> Jorge
>
> [1] "We ground our proposal for a lexicography module on the following 
> four points: (1) the use of OntoLex by the majority of the community 
> to convert linguistic resources to LLD instead of to lexicalize 
> ontologies, (2) the nature of lemon being descriptive but not 
> prescriptive and the respect towards different lexicographic views, 
> (3) the coming together of the lexicography and the Semantic Web 
> communities and potential benefits that LLD may bring about to 
> lexicography, assuming it involves no information loss, and (4) the 
> reuse of already available mechanisms in OntoLex." (see 
> http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-1899/OntoLex_2017_paper_5.pdf)
>
> [2] See http://www.lrec-conf.org/proceedings/lrec2016/pdf/523_Paper.pdf
>
> [3] See 
> http://www.lrec-conf.org/proceedings/lrec2016/workshops/LREC2016Workshop-GLOBALEX_Proceedings-v2.pdf
>
> 2017-09-21 9:54 GMT+02:00 Philipp Cimiano 
> <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de 
> <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>>:
>
>     Dear all,
>
>        an email from elex, which is being really interesting.
>
>     I want to propose to have our next teleconference on Tuesday 26th at
>     15:00 CEST.
>
>     The topics I want to discuss, raised during last telco:
>
>     1) Goals of the lexicography module
>
>     2) Lexicography module: modelling existing dictionaries or providing
>     a conceptual / abstract model of language and linguistic objects ?
>
>     3) Process to follow to define the lexicography module
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Philipp.
>
>
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>     Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
>     Universität Bielefeld
>
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> Jorge Gracia, PhD
> Ontology Engineering Group
> Artificial Intelligence Department
> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
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