Re: regular date for telecons

Hello all,

I haven’t ever written to/responded to this list but I am a longtime lurker
;-).

I work at the Austrian Center for Digital Humanities (Austrian Academy of
Sciences) and am more active in the TEI realm but have a strong interest in
Lemon/ONTOLEX.

As part of ISO resolution 2016-04.02 (Multi-part development of LMF) myself
and Fahad Kahn are in the beginning stages of writing an etymology
extension to that standard.

This is intended to based on and compatible with what myself and Laurent
Romary propose in our TEI etymology paper (previously cited by Gilles:
https://hal.inria.fr/hal-01296498/). (*I of course invite you to read it
and I welcome your input.*)

Part of the work is a TEI serialization of LMF (there is also an LBX
serialization). Overall, a major goal of our model is for it to be abstract
enough to be used as a compatible reference or basis for other systems of
representing etymology, such as LEMON

We can of course keep this list informed and, possibly participate more
actively in discussions of a diachrony extension. We will also be looking
for input from experts and potential users as well.

Cheers,
Jack Bowers

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Gilles Sérasset <gilles.serasset@imag.fr>
wrote:

> Hi all and Happy new Year,
>
> I must say that I am also in favour of these topics (even if I do not have
> much time to work on this).
>
> Concerning Lexico-syntactic categories, I went to Olia for DBnary, but
> found some (very few) gaps to encode some entries (missing cases/genders,
> etc.) especially to encode the extensive morphology (set of alternative
> forms, annotated with morpho-syntactic features). But this may be due to my
> personal lack of knowledge for linguistic theory.
>
> Concerning morphology module, we indeed need to identify one or maybe
> several morphology ontology that could be used to intentionally describe
> the morphology of some languages.
>
> Concerning Diachronic Module, I worked with Ester Pantaleo (under a
> MediaWiki grant) to extract etymology from wiktionary and we really lack an
> ontology of etymological relations and a set of best practices on etymology
> encoding. I did not see any published ontology in this aspect but I read
> some articles/work on this recently (https://hal.inria.fr/hal-01296498/)
> . We also had problems with the identification of languages (ancients +
> variants) that lexvo does not contain. We may extract a set of all
> languages mentioned in etymology section (at least in the English language
> Edition).
>
> Regards,
>
> Gilles,
>
>
> On 03 Jan 2017, at 11:44, John McCrae <john@mccr.ae> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I think the most requested features for OntoLex Lemon (at least to my
> knowledge) are as follows:
>
>
>    1. Lexico-syntactic categories: That is all the categories such as
>    part-of-speech, gender, case, etc. should be standardised by some procedure
>    agreed by the community. Currently this is done by LexInfo but the process
>    for proposing and correcting changes should be more open.
>    2. Morphology Module: The Monnet Lemon model had a morphology module,
>    but it was seen as quite insufficient and was not widely adopted. A better
>    system for modelling morphology, perhaps based on Bettina Klimek's MoOn
>    ontology could help in some use cases
>    3. Diachronic (historical) Module: The OntoLex Lemon model has no real
>    way of representing etymology or historical usages of terms. I believe
>    there were some suggestions in this direction from both Fahad Khan and
>    Christian Chiarcos.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Jorge Gracia <jgracia@fi.upm.es> wrote:
>
>> Dear Philipp,
>>
>> > I propose we move the teleconference to the new year to January 12th,
>> 16:00 CET
>>
>> Fine with me
>>
>> > Meanwhile, I would like to prepare the teleconference by asking you all
>> to share some thought on modules or
>> > extensions to the ontolex model you would like to see discussed in the
>> group next year.
>>
>> As suggested in a previous email, I'd like to propose a module for
>> lexicography [1]. We could analyse how to proceed with this in the next
>> telco.
>>
>> Best regards, and happy Christmas holidays,
>>
>> Jorge
>>
>> [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ontolex/2016Nov/0014.html
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jorge Gracia, PhD
>> Ontology Engineering Group
>> Artificial Intelligence Department
>> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
>> http://jogracia.url.ph/web/
>>
>
>
>