No ontolex telco today

Dear all,

  there has not been much activity on the mailinglist this week. 
Further, I have no agenda points for today. I propose that we cancel 
today's telco.

I will work on the specification in the next weeks and hope that we can 
have a final specification until end of the year.

Jorge: can we discuss your provenance example via email?

Have a good weekend,

Philipp.

Am 09.11.14 21:17, schrieb Philipp Cimiano:
> Jorge, ontolex members,
>
>  last Friday we had an very intense telecoference, see minutes here:
>
> As important milestones, we decided the following:
>
> 1) accept proposal 3B of Jorge mentioned in the email below. With this 
> we more or less conclude the work on the vartrans module, for which we 
> decided to keep the name (vartrans). We still need to finish the 
> discussion on representing provenance of translations however (Jorge: 
> are you going to be available for the telco next week)
>
> 2) We discussed again the examples for the metadata module provided by 
> Armando and Manuel and agreed on them essentially. We only discussed 
> few things: whether a proxy resource for a dataset is needed (it is 
> needed to add metadata essentially) and whether we need both a 
> ontolex:Lexicon (as lexicon object) and a lime:Lexicon (as dataset).
>
> 3) We decided to have both integer and percentage properties for the 
> coverage in the lime module.
>
> I think these are important milestones that conclude some of the open 
> discussion we have been having in the last months.
>
> Talk to you all on the 14th to finalize other aspects of the model.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Philipp.
>
> Am 07.11.14 14:19, schrieb Jorge Gracia:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> After some internal discussions we are proposing (Elena, Lupe, and 
>> myself) the following to accommodate the new notion of a generic 
>> lexico-semantic relation in Lemon-Ontolex:
>>
>> 1) To add a generic "Lexico-semantic Relation"  to the CORE module 
>> (the name can be another one of course) for reifying relations 
>> whenever it is necessary, and having the "source" and "target" 
>> properties that we have discussed in the previous telcos. It is 
>> specialised in "Lexical Relation" whenever the relation is at the 
>> level of forms or lexical entries, and "Sense Relation" whenever the 
>> relation is between senses. The motivation of placing these in the 
>> core is to support ANY module that wants to reuse the same 
>> reification mechanisms.
>>
>> Imágenes integradas 1
>>
>> 2)  Based on those classes, any type of specific relation could be 
>> supported. Now it is our choice whether to include them as a lemon 
>> module or as something external to the model. For instance, new 
>> relations could be defined: "Morphological derivation" (e.g., happy 
>> -> unhappy) at the lexical level or "Antonymy" at the sense level, 
>> for instance.
>>
>>
>> Imágenes integradas 2
>>
>> 3-A) Vartrans module: the Variant relation is proposed as a 
>> specialisation of "Lexico-semantic Relation". Roughly speaking, we 
>> understand "Variant" as a relation between two entities (lexical 
>> entries, forms, senses, ...) that are interchangeable under certain 
>> conditions, still keeping similar meanings (e.g., "finger" -> "hand" 
>> are not variants, but "color" -> "colour" or "bank"@en -> "banco"@es 
>> are variants). There are several subclasses of Variant:  "Lexical 
>> Variant" and "Translatable" are variants that are lexical relations 
>> as well, and "Terminological Variant" and "Translation" are variants 
>> that are also sense relations. See the figure for some examples...
>>
>> Imágenes integradas 3
>>
>> 3-B) However one could say that any possible variant is covered 
>> already by the above referred subclasses "Lexical Variant", 
>> "Translation", "Terminological Variant", ... So another scheme 
>> without the "Variant" type is also possible, although loosing the 
>> notion of a relation between entities that are exchangeable under 
>> certain circumstances (which is given by "Variant").
>>
>> Imágenes integradas 4
>>
>>
>> I hope you find this reflections useful. Sorry we are not available 
>> today for discussing it, but any feedback or comment by email will be 
>> appreciated, and we can continue the discussion in the following telco.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jorge, Elena, Lupe
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Jorge Gracia, PhD
>> Ontology Engineering Group
>> Artificial Intelligence Department
>> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
>> http://jogracia.url.ph/web/
>
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> Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano
> AG Semantic Computing
> Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
> Universität Bielefeld
>
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Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano
AG Semantic Computing
Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
Universität Bielefeld

Tel: +49 521 106 12249
Fax: +49 521 106 6560
Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de

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