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Re: synsem module

From: Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:50:31 +0200
Message-ID: <53FDC607.3050400@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
To: public-ontolex@w3.org
Hi Faha, Francesca,

  thanks a lot of this. I propose we discuss this on Friday during our 
regular telco at 15:00 (CET). I will send out access details today or 
tomorrow.

Can you both or at least one of you make it to the telcon to walk us 
over the example?

Thanks and best regards,

Philipp.

Am 26.08.14 16:06, schrieb Fahad Khan:
> Dear Philipp
>
> We've tried to put our money where our mouth is so here is a rough and 
> ready version in RDF of the buy/sell example  as well as a diagram of 
> part of the example, as inspired by a more LMF type aproach:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dojqhFMHTswFWUarQAbeVo3ap6_UjDLyN9gTPydqr_g/edit
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fahad & Francesca
>
>
> On 22 August 2014 10:37, Fahad Khan <anasfkhan81@gmail.com 
> <mailto:anasfkhan81@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Philipp,
>     Sorry for the delay in responding,  we have been on holiday too
>     the last couple of weeks.  We were planning to send something to
>     the list before we went away, but it turns out the translation was
>     harder to do than we thought (and our collective knowledge of lmf
>     less comprehensive) and we weren't entirely happy with what we
>     came up with. However we will send you a slightly polished version
>     of our proposed example next week before the telco -- after having
>     hopefully discussed it with colleagues far more well versed in lmf
>     than us.
>     Cheers
>     Fahad and Francesca
>
>     Dear all,
>
>        I returned from holidays end of last week. Given that some
>     people are still on holidays, I propose we have our next telco on
>     Friday 29th at the regular slot, i.e. 15:00 (CET). I will send out
>     an announcement soon.
>
>     @Fahad and Francesca: regarding our email thread before the
>     holidays, would you please be so kind to send an example of the
>     modelling of frames that is in your view appropriate, an LMF
>     document would be fine for now so that we can study the LMF
>     modelling in more detail in the next telco and then propose
>     appropriate vocabulary elements in the synsem module to do the
>     job. Starting from LMF seems a good idea to me as I mentione a few
>     weeks ago.
>
>     I will continue working with the vartrans and metadata modules
>     from next week on until we receive the input form Fahad and
>     Francesca to continue the work on the synsem module.
>
>     I regard the ontolex and decomp modules as largely finished.
>     Please check the ontologies and examples carefully so that we can
>     soon agree to release them.
>
>     Looking forward to continuing with our work.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Philipp.
>
>     Am 02.08.14 18:46, schrieb Manuel Fiorelli:
>>     Hi Philipp, All
>>
>>     sorry for the delayed response, which is in fact quite simple. 
>>     See below.
>>
>>     2014-08-01 11:53 GMT+02:00 Philipp Cimiano
>>     <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de
>>     <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>>:
>>
>>
>>         Am 01.08.14 00:10, schrieb Manuel Fiorelli:
>>>         My objection is that you split the description of the
>>>         semantic frame into two blocks. In each block, you
>>>         associated the frame with subframes, each one associating a
>>>         semantic role with a syntactic argument. Having these two
>>>         blocks, I can easily understand that the semantic frame has
>>>         three roles, which maps to the syntactic arguments.
>>>         Conversely, it I consider these two blocks together, as they
>>>         are in reality, then I am not sure I can easily spot the
>>>         "shape" of the semantic frame.
>>>
>>         Yes, that is the only objection I can see so far as well.
>>         Let's give a deeper look at this after the holidays, ok?
>>
>>
>>     I used the word "objection", which is quite a strong word. Maybe
>>     "observation" would have been a better choice. Nevertheless, I
>>     agree with you that we can continue the discussion after the
>>     holidays.
>>
>>     Meanwhile, happy holidays to everybody listening to this thread,
>>     and the rest of the OntoLex community :-D
>
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Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
Universität Bielefeld

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