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RE: telco tomorrow, 15:00 CET, random talk

From: QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r] <francesca.quattri@connect.polyu.hk>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:12:24 +0000
To: "public-ontolex@w3.org" <public-ontolex@w3.org>
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Hi and sorry for the bad Skype connection.
Here it comes again.
F.

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From: QUATTRI, Francesca [11901993r]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:06 PM
To: Philipp Cimiano
Cc: John McCrae; Aldo Gangemi
Subject: RE: telco tomorrow, 15:00 CET, random talk

Was playing around with the model. Thanks Philip for the example.
Take the following as a random talk about the many implications or extensions that can derive from it.

Let's assume sb is not looking for the French puddle, but starts from 'dog' as point of discussion and
tries to derive analogies across languages from its inflections.

Let's assume we look for a mapping of 'dogged' (stubbornly relentless, persistent):
we find similar concepts in other languages (perse2ve2rance, obstination -fr; perseverante, ostinato -it;
hartnaeckig, verbissen- de > interestingly: verbissen from Biss - bite; hartnaeckig / probably
from Nacken - back, lit. hard back > similar expression in It: "avere le spalle forti" /lit. to have strong shoulders)

Let's go for "to be dogged" (e.g. to be dogged by an illness)
We have the concept of 'persecution' in at least four languages:
*ser maltratado por/ser castigado por/ser perseguidado por (Sp)
*verfolgt von (Ge) (to be persecuted)
*zhe2mo (persecution, torment)(Ch); wei3sui2 (lit. "tail behind") versus the normal gou3 ("dog")
*perseguitato, maltrattato (It)

Let's look for a collocation with the word, e.g. "to dog around": Here we have at least two meanings.
1.to work hard 2. to cheat on sb (dogging, slang: a woman picking up men at random)

if we go for adj. plus word (e.g. top dog), we also get another new meaning (in this case: the leader or chief
of a group). Interestingly, in German we don't have the dog but the deer or stag to denote the concept (Platzhirsch).


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From: Philipp Cimiano [cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:36 AM
To: public-ontolex@w3.org
Subject: Re: telco tomorrow, 15:00 CET

Sorry, I forgot the diagram with the example.

Apologies,

Philipp.

Am 11.07.13 21:33, schrieb Philipp Cimiano:
> Dear all,
>
> John sent around a link to the current version of the model early this
> week:
>
> http://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/OntoLex_Core_Model
>
> I attach an illustrative example to this mail that shows how the model
> would put into action. Hope this helps.
>
> Tomorrow we will have our regular telco at 15:00 (CET).
>
> I will ask everyone on the telco to raise final issues with the model.
> If there are no issues, we will then start the voting procedure
> involving the whole list.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Philipp.
>


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