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Re: Friday, 15:00

From: Aldo Gangemi <aldo.gangemi@cnr.it>
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 14:30:38 +0200
Cc: Aldo Gangemi <aldo.gangemi@cnr.it>, Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>, "public-ontolex@w3.org" <public-ontolex@w3.org>
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To: Guido Vetere <gvetere@it.ibm.com>
I think Guido's requirement is important. I do not like much calling "Meaning" a token, but the idea is clear.
My proposal: we can easily create a "contextualized meaning" (a meaning token) by using the semio:LinguisticAct class. For example, we can say that a meaning (sense, concept) participating (intended, assumed, conceptualized) in a linguistic act is an instance of a special class that we could name e.g.:

ContextualizedMeaning
MeaningOccurrence
SenseOccurrence
…

This pattern can be implemented by means of situations (as in semiotics.owl), or context slices/tropes, or qua-entities.

Aldo

On Jul 5, 2013, at 1:16:42 PM , Guido Vetere <gvetere@it.ibm.com> wrote:

> Philipp, 
> 
> hope to be able to make the call today. Anyway, a discussion point I would like to address is about the distinction between 'type' and 'token' (see: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/types-tokens/), that I think could be somehow relevant. 
> 
> In Senso Comune, we have adopted DOLCE's foundations, which sets spatio-temporal qualities as a key distinctive feature. In this light, roughly, types can be put among abstractions (i.e. entities without specific spatio-temporal collocation) while tokens are basically concrete entities. Coming to linguistics, this led us to distinguish (what we call) 'Meaning' (token) from (what we call) 'Sense' (type). The former occurs in contexts and is conveyed by Expressions, the latter is a socially constructed abstraction and are linked to Lexical Entries. Meanings 'instantiate' one or more Senses. 
> 
> Now, our model differs from Ontolex's current draft, but this is not the point. The question is, do we have (or need) the type \ token distinction in OntoLex? If yes, where is it? 
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> Talk you later, 
> 
> Guido Vetere
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> Dear all,
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>  this is a gentle reminder that we will have our regular ontolex telco 
> on Friday, 15:00 (tomorrow!)
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> I will send around a recent version of the ontology tonight.
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> We should finalize discussions on the core tomorrow.
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> Best regards,
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> Philipp.
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